On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:56, Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 15:56 +0100, Clement Verna wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza <jlanda@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>
> > (snip)
> >
> > 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi zuen:
> > > To me that's the all point of this
> > > process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and  then look at
> > > the different options.
> > >
> >
> > Do we *really* *really* need to compete with other full featured git
> > forges on features? The ODF says that this is one of the problem. Well,
> > imo we don't *really* *really* need to compete with them.
> >
>
> It depends on the use case, doing development work projects hosted on
> pagure.io is not great in my opinion. In particular working with pull
> requests.

> In terms of issue trackers, it is missing the ability to visualize issues
> in a board for example.
> Again this my opinion and maybe these are maybe not *really* *really*
> needed.

I think it depends on the size and scope of your project a bit. I do
find Pagure.io a pretty good host of the projects I have there, as
they're fairly small. But then, an open source (non-enterprise edition)
Gitlab instance would work fine for them too.

Yes I agree with you, Pagure does a good job with small size project. It is also easy deploy and self host. And as I mentioned earlier in this thread my main real complain with Pagure is that we have to invest time to develop it and maintain it. I would be very happy to use it, if it was developed and maintained by someone else :-)
 

>
> > Actually we already have the features that we *really* *really* need.
> > Otherwise we could not release fedora using pagure as we are using,
> > could we? :)
> >
>
> I personally don't think we can release Fedora without people across the
> project doing heroics and a crazy amount of hours which seems to have
> become a norm rather than an exception.

When that happens it doesn't normally involve Pagure much, though. And
I don't think even an amazing git forge would actually go a long way to
solving the main issues there.

It is not about the git forge itself it is about how and on what we spend the little resources we have. If as a community we are all happy to invest this time on developing and maintaining a git forge that's all fine with me. But as said earlier we have not invested much in Pagure for more than a year, that allowed us to put a lot of effort and focus on Bodhi to add support for rawhide including people being able to use side-tag in rawhide now. Should we continue like that and feature freeze Pagure ? or do we invest in Pagure instead of other work that need to be done ? Do we switch to another forge, knowing that it will require a LOT of initial effort to migrate ? I honestly don't know what is the correct answer :-)
 
 
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