On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 05:01, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at> wrote:

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> This is not about forcing modules unto people. The drive comes from
> the other direction: packages want to be available only as modules,

But that is exactly what I mean by "forcing modules onto people"!

If you want to keep non-module version of packages around then you (or any interested party) needs to step up and help with the maintenance of them.

Someone said further up that the it makes the Java SIG's life easier. These days the Java SIG is pretty much one guy maintaining hundreds of packages:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/java-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MQMRQVENBLDRS67WLNQ7EOCMSDI5WIET/

So if we want a Java stack in the distro at all and you are not willing or able to lend a hand, then by all means let him maintain those packages in the most efficient way he can.

It's not about forcing modules onto users, it's about not forcing more work than necessary onto already overstretched maintainers.

Mat Booth
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora