Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> I don't think it makes sense to restart the discussion here. I disagree
> that there was (any) consensus on the mailing list. If you feel that it's
> better to use a non-Fedora JRE, that's certainly possible, please just do
> that if you want to. Personally, I see a lot of value in having Java
> for Fedora, and use it for my stuff.

But the thing is, I am left with only the options of using an all-bundled
JRE from Fedora or using an all-bundled JRE from elsewhere. I hope you can
see how this is not a real choice.

I have been using the Fedora-packaged Java all this time, and I indeed also
see a lot of value in it. But to me, this also implies that it is packaged
to Fedora standards and uses Fedora system libraries. Stopping to do so
destroys much of the value of having a Fedora package at all.

So, sure, I can just use Java from elsewhere, but that is exactly what I do
not want. What I do want is being taken away from me.