On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 5:05 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 09:50:33AM -0500, Paul Frields wrote:
> Here's the summary from the page, which proposes we pause the release
> after F30 for these efforts:
I know it was a big time-off holiday week in the US, but I expected a little
more interest in this post.
I initially basically ignored the previous E-Mail, because it didn't
come from a person I knew, and - from quickly glancing over the
contents - read like marketing fluff. I should have dug deeper there,
but we all only have limited time.
Perhaps it seemed like too much text to digest
along with turkey and stuffing. :) I'm highlighting it with a subject
reflecting the big, direct impact, and here's some other top-level
This is definitely getting more attention. Maybe the initial E-Mail
should have had a less bland Subject line, too ;)
* embrace Taiga (an open source kanban tool) for project planning
* fix the compose speed (target: one hour!)
* really actually for real gated Rawhide
* better CI pipeline tests for everything
* better tooling for non-base deliverables
* better metrics for everything
Those all sound like good things to work on.
* define a base platform -- Red Hat wants to focus resources here
This point though ... hmm. Also kind of mentioned on the linked wiki page:
#3 (...) Define a small, draft set of content for the Platform which
can iterate over time
What exactly does that mean? Moving to something two-tiered like the
ubuntu model (main / universe) - which I think is a terrible solution?
(And what would be the names for this in fedora - "core" and
(pun definitely intended))
Also, I find it funny that - somehow - tons of resources would be
available for "better CI pipeline tests for everything" (!), but we'd
have to "focus resources" when it comes to the fedora "platform"
I hope my response doesn't read overly negative or critical - but I
think some fedora contributors (including me) have been weary of
something like this ("focusing resources") since the IBM news got
> Please read https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Lifecycle/Problem_statements
> and comment in this thread.
> Matthew Miller
> Fedora Project Leader
> devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html
> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> List Archives: