On 04/08/2015 08:39 AM, Jan Zelený wrote:

On 8. 4. 2015 at 10:26:51, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 08.04.2015 um 08:41 schrieb Jan Zelený:

Putting the opinion of myself and the dnf team aside, I'd like to point
out
that the information you want is still available - dnf check-update will
show you all the updates, even those that have broken deps. Running this
command right after dnf upgrade will list you those that could not be
installed

the world don't work that way

*nobody* even not myself would call "dnf check-update" after "dnf
upgrade" installed updates and did not complain about anything

You are right, people use it the other way - we have had reports stating that 
dnf check-update shows packages that dnf upgrade doesn't select. In other 
words, the information about broken updates is still available to the user.

Perhaps dnf should keep track whether it had to 'skip-broken' , and report packages that were skipped during the update?

I agree with Harald that invoking it quietly is the wrong thing to do. I have an extensive set of repositories (Fedora, Fusion, local, src/debug) and I had to "yum --skip-broken" disturbingly often.