On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 16:18, Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou(a)pingoured.fr
wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 03:56:08PM +0100, Clement Verna wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 15:23 Julen Landa Alustiza
> <jlanda(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> (snip)
> 20/1/29 14:49(e)an, Clement Verna igorleak idatzi
zuen:
> > To me that's the all point of this
> > process, let's put down what we *really* *really* need and then
look
> at
> > the different options.
>
>
Do we *really* *really* need to compete with other full featured git
> forges on features? The ODF says that this is one of the problem.
Well,
> imo we don't *really* *really* need to compete with them.
> It depends on the use case, doing development work
projects hosted on
> pagure.io is not great in my opinion. In particular working with
pull
> requests.
> In terms of issue trackers, it is missing the ability to visualize
issues
> in a board for example.Â
> Again this my opinion and maybe these are maybe not *really* *really*
> needed.
> Actually we already have the features that we
*really* *really*
need.
> Otherwise we could not release fedora using pagure as we are using,
> could we? :)
> I personally don't think we can release Fedora
without people across
the
> project doing heroics and a crazy amount of hours which seems to have
> become a norm rather than an exception.Â
I don't think anyone can disagree with this, but this begs the question:
are
these heroics related to pagure?
If not, I'm not sure what is the point you were trying to
make for this
> thread.
My point is that we have to dedicate a team to work on Pagure, I would
rather have these people working on improving the infrastructure so that we
don't need these heroics to happen. If we don't put people to work on
Pagure it will end up being another fedora-packages, badges or FAS and in
couple years it will be too difficult to do anything with it. It is not
only about Pagure, for example I would love to be able to replace Bodhi
with something that we don't have to maintain but it is much more difficult
to find an alternative to Bodhi than Pagure.
My general feeling is that an infrastructure team should avoid as much as
possible to maintain large applications, the focus should be to develop the
glue needed to for the different services to work together in the most
efficient manner, to monitor the applications, the respond to outages.
Does that clarify my thoughts ?
> Pierre
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