On 2.7.2020 10:16, nickysn@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2020-07-01 at 21:14 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Solomon Peachy writes:

Even putting that aside, for the past several years CSM/BIOS has
slowly bitrotting due to a lack of real testing, as the last few
releases have mandated use of UEFI for preinstalled systems, plus
EOLing of Windows 7 and (especially) XP.
That's only because it's Microsoft.
Note that, even though Microsoft is pushing for UEFI on new systems in
the OEM version of Windows, they still support booting in legacy BIOS
mode in the latest Windows 10 version and they even support a 32-bit
version of Windows 10, which Fedora no longer does, so you can install
and run it on even older hardware than Fedora. Even the latest May 2020
update of Windows 10 has a 32-bit retail version that is directly
downloadable from their website:


The only Windows that no longer supports 32-bit systems is Windows
Server. So the obsolescence of Windows 7 and XP is irrelevant.

I'm by no means a Microsoft fan, but these are facts. Fedora is pushing
for hardware obsolescence faster than Microsoft in this regard. :(

To be completely fair, I must say that Fedora runs on first generation
AMD64 hardware, while the 64-bit version of Windows no longer does, but
the 32-bit Windows 10 still works on them, and on even earlier CPUs
that are 32-bit only, which Fedora no longer supports.

I think linux distribution started to drop 32bit back in 2015 so Fedora has just been following that trend and Microsoft is seemingly dropping 32bit [1] ( probably no wants to pay for that support anymore supply and demand).

" Beginning with Windows 10, version 2004, all new Windows 10 systems will be required to use 64-bit builds and Microsoft will no longer release 32-bit builds for OEM distribution."

At one point or another Fedora needs to reach consensus on how old hardware should be considered "supported" to set realistic end users expectations accordingly as well as not to find it in a situation in which an old hw blocks the progress of the distribution or a change of a primary architecture ( everything seems to be moving to arm these days ) and visa versa ensure that older hw is "supported" for the duration of that time that it's promised but that's a topic for an entirely different thread.


1. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/minimum-hardware-requirements-overview