Re: future of official optical media support in Fedora
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis(a)ausil.us> wrote:
On miércoles, 7 de diciembre de 2016 1:56:32 PM CST Mike Pinkerton
wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2016, at 09:43, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > Which images to cover, that's the heart of the discussion. If you
> > look into our test matrix again, we currently block on 6 of them:
> > * Workstation Live + netinst
> > * KDE Live
> > * Server DVD + netinst
> > * Everything netinst
> >
> > What comes first to my mind is Server (DVD + netinst). My guess is
> > that people don't install Server from optical media, but rather
> > from PXE or USB. I can't imagine installing Server boxes from DVDs.
> > But I'd really like to hear from Server users how this is likely or
> > not. Also, Server is most probably not given away at events. I
> > don't know about sending Server DVDs to the developing world, we
> > can make an inquiry about that.
>
> On 6 Dec 2016, at 12:20, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So an alternative to kparal's scheme would be to try and consider
> > this,
> > and say we test:
> >
> > * Workstation live
> > * Everything netinst
> > * Server DVD
> >
> > and consider those to be representative of the broad 'types' of
> > ISOs in
> > terms of the compose process. That way we don't have to test
> > Workstation or Server netinsts, or the KDE live, on optical media.
>
> On 7 Dec 2016, at 09:13, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > I think: Workstation x86_64 Live, and at least one netinstall image of
> > any flavor (from which, in a pinch, anything else can be installed via
> > kickstart).
>
> I use the Server netinstall image. Use cases include loop mounting
> the netinstall .iso on boxes with Grub2 -- works on remote boxes
> where there is no physical access and can be easier than setting up a
> remote PXE solution -- and burning a CD for local boxes without Grub2.
There is the pxe iso to use boot.fedoraproject.org that would probably better
suit your purposes.
> I would be fine with dropping the Server DVD.
>
> Does anyone maintain a up-to-date list of the content differences
> between the Server and Everything netinstall discs? Is there any
> difference other than in default preferences? Is there a way to do a
> single disc with a choice of "give me Server defaults" or "give me
> Everything defaults"?
The server netinst iso uses the server defaults, partitioning and filesystem
selection. there is no way to do both with a single disk today. it would
require who knows what work, I imagine the work is possible its just not an
option today. probably your best bet again is bfo[1]
Dennis
[1] https://boot.fedoraproject.org/
Admittedly, I have not gone through the whole thread, but I'd like to
point out that I *do* use the DVD and netinstall ISOs for optical
media boot on real hardware, though in a somewhat indirect manner.
Many of the servers I use have IPMI, which allows me to have it boot a
remote DVD device with an ISO or a real DVD drive. Due to certain
bugs[1], I've increasingly relied on the DVD vs netinstall. From the
system's perspective, it's a regular DVD startup, just like with VMs.
[1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1228897
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