On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 10:24:53 AM CET Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 09:36:27AM +0100, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> On Friday, January 10, 2020 5:36:46 PM CET Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > Do we want to drop release and changelog from our spec file?
>
> No. People continuously tend to forget that '%changelog' is for
> end-users. Especially if some distributions already claim they can live
> fine without %changelog...
>
> Unless product managers say that 'rpm -q --changelog' is not a thing
> nowadays, we should at least _allow_ being "nice" to end users. So
> whatever approach we use by default -- the maintainers still have to have
> a chance to maintain %changelog manually.
rpm -q --changelog is a thing, which is why we're discussing the idea to remove
the changelog from the *spec file* not from the (s)RPM.
And yes I agree that whichever approach is designed, it should be made opt-in,
if only to allow to gather feedback and improve the process.
Thanks.
While we are on it.. did you consider to implement some nice
Release/%changelog workflow in src.fedoraproject.org? I filled now
https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/4714
Pavel