On 07/24/2013 07:33 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 07/24/2013 03:50 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Earlier this evening I was asked how I expected Fedora to function in
any way similarly to how it does now without the backing of one or more
organizations like Red Hat.

I gave the quick answer  "through donations" since I was not in mood to
give the detailed answers ( and taint that thread even further ) however
I'm about do it here to certain extent since the questioner probably did
not expect me to have actually given this any thought which I actually
have although I have not chiselled it into stone, making it the concrete
proposal the community demands since it's just a small fraction of a
True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
larger idea or rather vision I have but I have decide it be the correct
time to share that part of that vision of mine with the rest of the
community to gather feedback.

Under the current model I thought it is not possible to make monetary donations to Fedora (I remember Jared Smith saying something about this at a linuxconf.au a while back) Hardware, physical items, consumable media etc is OK though. Something to do with US taxes, correct me if I'm wrong.

I dont think "gift economy"  will work for us either because anything you "give" to the project can be seen as being given with the anticipation of return or obligations under us laws.

Anyone from the legal needs to answer the question what the options are regarding the Fedora trademark and donations ( can it /needs it to be change from trademark to something else ) and what Red Hat can and cannot do ( even if it's not willing to do that ) so we can as a community focus on the options available to us.

The other alternative is to simply reallocate the entire community and infrastructure outside US under a new name ( if so where? ) which begs the question if Red Hat can and will continue to support us if we do.

JBG
Gifts are not given with an anticipation of return: - See more at: http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-legally-open-a-gift-economy#sthash.xafaMsTT.dpu
“The soup has been so helpful to me over the years, but I’ve never been able to return the favor. I feel I should compensate you somehow!” - See more at: http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-legally-open-a-gift-economy#sthash.xafaMsTT.dpuf
For years, I make soup for my elderly neighbor, simply as a kind gesture. Then, I go through a rough financial time after setting my kitchen on fire. My neighbor, who just received a large inheritance, gives me $2000 to help out. These gestures do seem to arise from pure generosity and charity, so hopefully I wouldn’t have to include the $2000 in my income. - See more at: http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-legally-open-a-gift-economy#sthash.xafaMsTT.dpuf
True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed.
True gifts are largely unregulated and untaxed