On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon
<pingou(a)pingoured.fr> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +0000, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
> > > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach.
> > > ....
> > > It's not really a question of resources, but of not thinking this is
> > > the correct approach.
> >
> > What is the correct approach?
>
> You seem to have missed this in Adam's email so here it is:
>
> i) just getting things right so we don't need a giant pile of
> configuration tools
> ii) tools written at more appropriate layers, mainly desktop
> environments
This is how you wind up with systemd.
Um. What? systemd has nothing to do with this, and...
One overarching tool
...I didn't say anything about 'one overarching tool'.
It was tried for
Fedora years ago, and discarded with a passion.
What 'was tried for Fedora'? What are you referring to?
> Now if you think this is wrong, maybe you could give a few
examples and bug
> reports so that there is something tangible to discuss. Otherwise we're just
> discussing around opinions and I doubt that it would lead to anything
> productive.
YaST DNS management, limited, painful, and difficult to tune for valid
site specific configuration such as using the same .zone file for
multiple domains.
YaST package management, which attempts to incorporate management of
non-RPM proprietary tools alongside RPM package management, mishandles
the proprietary tools, and doesn't report conflicts among them though
it's alleging to manage both.
YaST mishandling of timezone confurations. (They may have fixed that one.)
YaST printer configuration. Mind you, that one's always been painful.
Um. You realize I was saying that we *don't* have anything like YAST
and we explicitly chose not to, right? You seem to be confused about
who's arguing what.
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