=========================================== #fedora-bugzappers: F-13-Blocker bug review =========================================== Meeting started by jlaska at 15:12:15 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-04-16/f-13-blocker-bug-review.2010-04-16-15.12.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Gathering critmass ... (jlaska, 15:12:42) * Why are we here? (jlaska, 15:14:58) * Review the list of F13Blocker bugs to determine whether they put the Fedora 13 release criteria at risk (jlaska, 15:16:03) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Final_Release_Criteria (jlaska, 15:16:07) * LINK: F13Blocker bugs (sorted by component) - http://tinyurl.com/y4pa97n (jlaska, 15:16:46) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569469 (jlaska, 15:17:31) * affects final criteria "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (jlaska, 15:20:04) * ACTION: jlaska will retest to confirm there is a consistent reproducer (jlaska, 15:23:41) * AGREED: 569469 - If consistently reproduces, remains as a F13Blocker (jlaska, 15:24:43) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534066 (jlaska, 15:25:08) * anaconda incorrectly sets the windows restore partition as windows partition (jlaska, 15:27:28) * AGREED: 534066 - remains as a F13Blocker - most systems ship with restore partitions and this would cause confusion when installing F13 along-side such systems (jlaska, 15:30:14) * ACTION: dlehman will discuss solutions for 534066 with clumens and hansg (jlaska, 15:30:46) * anaconda-devel agreement reach on hansg suggestion ... should start moving forward (jlaska, 15:31:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577501 (jlaska, 15:31:58) * HELP: Are FTBFS bugs considered release blockers? (jlaska, 15:34:50) * AGREED: According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FTBFS, 577501 will be moved to F13Target (jlaska, 15:36:44) * dlehman notes this will be pulled into future F13 anaconda build (jlaska, 15:36:56) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568528 (jlaska, 15:37:49) * ACTION: adam proposed a new release criterion for capturing blocking SSH firewall as found in 568528 (jlaska, 15:44:37) * AGREED: 568528 accepted as a provisional blocker ... new release criterion will be drafted (jlaska, 15:44:56) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568219 (jlaska, 15:45:07) * AGREED: 568219 - a valid F13Blocker bug impacting a reasonable partitioning layout (jlaska, 15:47:55) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=566259 (jlaska, 15:48:42) * AGREED: 566259 - not a blocker, only occurs when disconnecting from a telnet install (jlaska, 15:52:10) * HELP: Can we remove 'telnet' install support? Please? (jlaska, 15:53:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531629 (jlaska, 15:54:48) * 531629 - impacts the "reasonable" partition criteria, use default partition layout, edit /boot size (jlaska, 15:58:10) * AGREED: 531629 - is a valid F13Blocker (jlaska, 15:58:53) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=581820 (jlaska, 15:59:32) * AGREED: Skip remaining MODIFIED anaconda blocker bugs (jlaska, 16:06:41) * ACTION: jlaska to ping each MODIFIED anaconda bug for test feedback (jlaska, 16:06:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577004 (jlaska, 16:07:03) * ACTION: adamw to test and confirm fix for 577004 (jlaska, 16:10:20) * AGREED: 577004 - is a valid F13Blocker resulting in a crashing app after a default install with no local system configuration (jlaska, 16:11:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576060 (jlaska, 16:11:22) * LINK: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=96445547da4dd5d92aa37a46b95472d63671888f (jlaska, 16:14:54) * ACTION: rhe to confirm the workaround resolves the reported problem in bug#578955 (jlaska, 16:16:20) * ACTION: jlaska to clone 576060 for expected F-14 anaconda fix (jlaska, 16:20:51) * AGREED: 576060 is a valid F13Blocker involving partition resize of dirty partitions (jlaska, 16:21:19) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579515 (jlaska, 16:21:28) * LINK: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=158058 (adamw, 16:30:57) * the fixed esc and coolkey builds need to be submitted as updates (adamw, 16:34:33) * ACTION: adamw to track 567325 and 579515 to ensure the fixed builds are sent through as updates and ifd-egate is removed (adamw, 16:34:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=549093 (jlaska, 16:35:44) * AGREED: 549093 hasn't been updated since 2009-12, need more info from assignee to assess impact to release criteria (jlaska, 16:40:11) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571900 (jlaska, 16:40:22) * ACTION: adamw requesting clarification in 571900 - mixed reports of success and failure in the bug (jlaska, 16:46:01) * HELP: how to find the list of fully supported languages (jlaska, 16:47:10) * AGREED: 571900 will remain on the list awaiting clarification from report (jlaska, 16:49:15) * blocker meeting: on hold till 3pm EDT / 12pm PDT (adamw, 16:55:22) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568106 (jlaska, 19:01:00) * ACTION: jlaska to ping pjones to provide reproducer for 568106 (jlaska, 19:06:02) * expected impact on server and non-graphical virt guests (jlaska, 19:08:00) * AGREED: revisit next week, hopefully after devel review (jlaska, 19:08:19) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567325 (jlaska, 19:08:31) * AGREED: addressed earlier (see log) (jlaska, 19:08:58) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577482 (jlaska, 19:09:01) * ACTION: 577482 - ON_QA awaiting retest (jlaska, 19:10:49) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577059 (jlaska, 19:12:10) * AGREED: 577059 is a F13Blocker - virt installs with multiple CD's are expected to work (jlaska, 19:15:38) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560628 (jlaska, 19:16:15) * one 855GM PASS result in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-15_Intel (jlaska, 19:23:42) * AGREED: need input from ajax to determine impact (jlaska, 19:24:10) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560087 (jlaska, 19:27:38) * ACTION: jlaska will retest iSCSI during install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_ISCSI_No_Authentication (jlaska, 19:30:06) * AGREED: will revisit 560087 next week, after updated testing against iSCSI installs (jlaska, 19:31:21) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576156 (jlaska, 19:31:32) * HELP: does ABRT capture and offer reporting of kernel circular dependency problems (jlaska, 19:35:57) * AGREED: 576156 can move to F13Target, does not prevent RAID installs (jlaska, 19:37:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523024 (jlaska, 19:37:49) * AGREED: 523024 - not a F13Blocker bug - ksplice not a feature or critpath, unclear how impacts existing release criteria (jlaska, 19:41:40) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571573 (jlaska, 19:41:49) * AGREED: 571573 - borderline criteria since libvirtd isn't enabled by default, but team agreed this was a F13Blocker (jlaska, 19:45:32) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=560628 (jlaska, 19:46:04) * LINK: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-April/006605.html (ajax, 19:47:22) * ACTION: ajax to build a kernel with the potential fix for this issue and post it in the bug (adamw, 19:54:37) * ACTION: adamw to try and find more people to test 8xx generation intel hardware on f13 in general (adamw, 19:54:51) * AGREED: leave 560628 on F13Blocker pending updated kernel results, and more test feedback from 855 chipsets (jlaska, 19:56:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572796 (jlaska, 19:57:43) * ACTION: jlaska to install KDE on ipw2200 laptop to test 572796 (jlaska, 20:03:25) * AGREED: 572796 will move to F13Target - not enough feedback to determine if this impacts all KDE + ipw2200 users (jlaska, 20:06:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567978 (jlaska, 20:06:59) * AGREED: 567978 is a valid F13Blocker - affects all virt cases and may affect bare metal depending on router configuration (jlaska, 20:17:22) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539471 (jlaska, 20:17:50) * AGREED: 539471 - not a F13Blocker, is a review request, we are past feature freeze and no criteria exist specific to package reviews (jlaska, 20:21:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579686 (jlaska, 20:21:22) * AGREED: 579686 - not a F13Blocker. Workaround exists, move to F13Target (nice to have) (jlaska, 20:24:31) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582590 (jlaska, 20:24:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F13_bugs#black-screen-on-kickstart-install (jlaska, 20:25:39) * AGREED: 582590 - ask for testing using updates.img from 577708 (jlaska, 20:28:33) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572148 (jlaska, 20:28:45) * AGREED: 572148 - affects preupgrade to F-13 and a valid F13Blocker (jlaska, 20:33:04) * positive test results, needs build + update for F-12 (jlaska, 20:33:37) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575400 (jlaska, 20:33:45) * AGREED: 575400 - valid for F13Blocker (jlaska, 20:36:56) * awaiting bodhi update with new preupgrade package (jlaska, 20:37:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571727 (jlaska, 20:37:58) * AGREED: 571727 - move to F13Target (jlaska, 20:40:07) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567119 (jlaska, 20:40:19) * AGREED: 567119 - seems to no longer be an issue, close bug (jlaska, 20:42:42) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577709 (jlaska, 20:42:53) * AGREED: 577790 move to F13Target, yum upgrade between releases is not a release criteria (jlaska, 20:50:17) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532308 (jlaska, 20:50:59) * AGREED: 532308 can move to F13Target - nice to have 3d on this adapter, 2d not affected (jlaska, 20:59:57) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522955 (jlaska, 21:00:14) * AGREED: request retesting of 522955 and leave on F13Blocker (jlaska, 21:02:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523914 (jlaska, 21:03:04) * AGREED: 523914 impacts F13 release criteria, remains on F13Blocker (jlaska, 21:08:57) * Peter to provide a fix, or update the bug with latest status (jlaska, 21:11:00) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530692 (jlaska, 21:11:40) * AGREED: not enough info on 530692 - awaiting updated test results (jlaska, 21:14:06) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580423 (jlaska, 21:15:02) * ACTION: adamw to retest 580423 (jlaska, 21:20:55) * AGREED: 580423 - pending testing, may drop to F13Target (jlaska, 21:21:34) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579756 (jlaska, 21:21:47) * AGREED: 579756 is a F13Blocker - awaiting upstream patch review (jlaska, 21:27:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577468 (jlaska, 21:28:13) * AGREED: 577468 is a DUP of 579756 (jlaska, 21:30:49) Meeting ended at 21:32:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jlaska will retest to confirm there is a consistent reproducer * dlehman will discuss solutions for 534066 with clumens and hansg * adam proposed a new release criterion for capturing blocking SSH firewall as found in 568528 * jlaska to ping each MODIFIED anaconda bug for test feedback * adamw to test and confirm fix for 577004 * rhe to confirm the workaround resolves the reported problem in bug#578955 * jlaska to clone 576060 for expected F-14 anaconda fix * adamw to track 567325 and 579515 to ensure the fixed builds are sent through as updates and ifd-egate is removed * adamw requesting clarification in 571900 - mixed reports of success and failure in the bug * jlaska to ping pjones to provide reproducer for 568106 * 577482 - ON_QA awaiting retest * jlaska will retest iSCSI during install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_ISCSI_No_Authentication * ajax to build a kernel with the potential fix for this issue and post it in the bug * adamw to try and find more people to test 8xx generation intel hardware on f13 in general * jlaska to install KDE on ipw2200 laptop to test 572796 * adamw to retest 580423 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to test and confirm fix for 577004 * adamw to track 567325 and 579515 to ensure the fixed builds are sent through as updates and ifd-egate is removed * adamw requesting clarification in 571900 - mixed reports of success and failure in the bug * adamw to try and find more people to test 8xx generation intel hardware on f13 in general * adamw to retest 580423 * ajax * ajax to build a kernel with the potential fix for this issue and post it in the bug * dlehman * dlehman will discuss solutions for 534066 with clumens and hansg * jlaska * jlaska will retest to confirm there is a consistent reproducer * jlaska to ping each MODIFIED anaconda bug for test feedback * jlaska to clone 576060 for expected F-14 anaconda fix * jlaska to ping pjones to provide reproducer for 568106 * jlaska will retest iSCSI during install https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Anaconda_ISCSI_No_Authentication * jlaska to install KDE on ipw2200 laptop to test 572796 * **UNASSIGNED** * adam proposed a new release criterion for capturing blocking SSH firewall as found in 568528 * rhe to confirm the workaround resolves the reported problem in bug#578955 * 577482 - ON_QA awaiting retest People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jlaska (460) * adamw (261) * Oxf13 (80) * buggbot (45) * ajax (33) * dlehman (15) * drago01_ (9) * jforbes (9) * notting (8) * zodbot (6) * airlied (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot