On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 07:08:13AM -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> Idea #1: Do not block on optical media issues for Alpha and Beta
releases
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is the less controversial idea, I believe. We received a concern
from Matthew, who was worried that we might find out too late if we
don't check it for Alpha/Beta. I partly agree, but believe we should
solve it with an improved QA processes, instead of bumping the
release criteria to apply earlier. He did not object to this, and
nobody else did, so I assume everyone agrees :-) If there are no
further concerns, I'll prepare a criterion adjustment proposal for
this.
+1
This was received with reasonably positive reception as well. But
it's harder to compile a list which images should be covered by
criteria and which not.
- Workstation Live will be covered, that's clear - we give out these
DVDs at events, it's sent out to the developing world
- Everything netinst is the most universal and generic netinst, so
covering that one means we don't need to cover Workstation netinst
and Server netinst. People seem to agree to this.
+1
- Nobody argued for KDE Live. We probably don't bulk press KDE
Live
DVDs. If we cover Workstation Live, it's improbable that only KDE
Live would break, but not impossible. If such thing happens, are
people OK with releasing Fedora XX KDE Live only bootable over USB?
I continue to believe we need the ability to release Spins independent
of the main release cycle. If there's a KDE-specific problem, rather
than that holding up the release *or* waiting six to eight months for
it to work again, there should be the ability to have it fixed a week
later. Or for that matter, if Workstation slips a month and KDE doesn't
want to, should be fine.
I know that we're not there yet, but I'll keep repeating it as a
desired state. :)
- Server DVD is a mixed bag. Matthew didn't include it in his
block-list, Adam did. Neal uses it over IMPI (but netinst would be
good enough for him IIUIC, sans some package deps issue which can
be solved using a kickstart). I would appreciate more feedback from
Server folks. Again, we'll cover netinst so it's improbable DVD
would break, but not impossible. Are people OK releasing it only
bootable over USB (and PXE)?
I think netinst + USB covers the Server case well enough.
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader