On 23 January 2014 17:28, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@chello.at> wrote:

Adam Williamson wrote:request process down people's throats).

> has anyone yet publicly noted the irony of someone building a wildly
> successful proprietary SCM platform on top of a project that was written
> to rescue the kernel from a proprietary SCM platform, btw? :P

This shows that people have not learned ANYTHING from the ButtKeeper fiasco.
:-(

Dude, that was so long ago in computer times that you might as well recall the great punch card disaster of 1968. Trying to remind people that something over 18 months ago might happen again rarely works. [I know this from 30+ years of doing so.]

I can understand that individuals cannot afford hosting their own git
server, but I don't see why:
1. they don't use the AGPLed Gitorious nor
2. why large projects with their own infrastructure rely on such third-party
services, sometimes ignoring existing infrastructure such as Fedora Hosted
that works perfectly fine.

'works perfectly fine' in a small set of usages. It takes a heck of a lot of babysitting to keep it working at the limited extent it does. I am not saying that I don't agree that Fedora things should be on Fedora Hosted, but don't try to overlook that fedorahosted is severely taxed with what it has already. It doesn't fit what people want and the fact that trac is primarily used with SVN but most of the users want anything but that doesn't help. Add in the fact that trying to do any sort of failover requires shared storage needs we can't meet and you have a tall stack of dishes on a ship in a storm.

Stephen J Smoogen.