On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 00:23 +0200, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote:
I've opened a PR which restores gdm/X11 support at: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/pull-request/28#
It builds, I'll be able to test it in a few hours, but anybody is free and welcome to give it a try once the scratch build finishes.
IMHO , that is the way that should work , revert the deletes, if someone ask to and will maintain that , even if we have an approved change request.
i.e. if someone want keep something in Fedora should be allowed to him maintain it as long he maintain it (don't give the work to others) .
If we look to gtk , Fedora have gtk+ (1), gtk2 , becuase when we propose to orphan that , someone step up and maintain them .
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:22 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski via devel devel@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Friday, 11 April 2025 at 10:01, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: [...]
Yes, that sounds like an accurate description of how things would have gone, had somebody started the process! But it seems that this window has closed already, because of the decision to release F42 on Thursday. Reverting the changes in Gnome would have required a respinning of the release images and a delay of the release. I don't think we'd want to do that.
An unapproved major change was done and yes, that is what should be done.
But even apart from that, even if this was raised sooner, I would be against such a big change so late in the process anyway.
Wait, what?! The unapproved change must be reverted as soon as possible. Otherwise the Change process becomes a joke. The big change was done without approval, so it doesn't matter if it was noticed late or not.
Two options have been floated:
- a separate gdm-x11 package: certainly an option, but a bit of
work, and upstream might drop the X11 code anyway.
- switching to a different login manager. I think this option is
better and has better long-term prospects. Folks who use X11 should make a recommendation what to switch to.
No and no. GDM maintainer must take responsibility, even if applying the unapproved change was unintentional, and revert it now.
Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://fedoraproject.org Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. -- from "The Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan