12:57 p.m.
On 12. 01. 23 18:53, Susi Lehtola wrote:
On 1/12/23 19:48, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 12. 01. 23 18:42, Susi Lehtola wrote:
>> On 12/5/22 13:36, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>>> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
>>> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
>>> that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
>>>
>>> Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the
affected
>>> packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package
or
>>> retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your
>>> package will fail to install and/or build when the affected package gets
retired.
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> although I was mentioned in the email
>>
>>> Affected (co)maintainers (either directly or via packages'
dependencies):
>>> jussilehtola: CheMPS2
>>
>> I was was not contacted about this and the package has been falsely retired.
>> Please check your scripts to reach out to other maintainers who may have been
>> bitten by the retirements.
>
> I have just checked and you were Bcc'ed like all the other affected maintainers.
Well, bccing means that the mail wasn't addressed to me and therefore I just got
the single mail that got delivered as part of the normal list distribution,
which means I also didn't get notified about the retirement...
Better suggestions welcome.
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5:35 p.m.
New subject: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 07:57:28PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 12. 01. 23 18:53, Susi Lehtola wrote:
> On 1/12/23 19:48, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> On 12. 01. 23 18:42, Susi Lehtola wrote:
>>> On 12/5/22 13:36, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>>>> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
>>>> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for
sure
>>>> that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper
reason:
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
>>>>
>>>> Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the
affected
>>>> packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected
package or
>>>> retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise
your
>>>> package will fail to install and/or build when the affected package gets
retired.
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> although I was mentioned in the email
>>>
>>>> Affected (co)maintainers (either directly or via packages'
dependencies):
>>>> jussilehtola: CheMPS2
>>>
>>> I was was not contacted about this and the package has been falsely
retired.
>>> Please check your scripts to reach out to other maintainers who may have
been
>>> bitten by the retirements.
>>
>> I have just checked and you were Bcc'ed like all the other affected
maintainers.
>
> Well, bccing means that the mail wasn't addressed to me and therefore I just
got
> the single mail that got delivered as part of the normal list distribution,
> which means I also didn't get notified about the retirement...
Better suggestions welcome.
For receiving/filtering emails, you can filter on the List-Id: header
rather than the To: or Cc: headers. In that way you can differentiate
between normal list distribution and Bcc:. If there is no List-Id:
header, the mail can be directed to your Inbox rather than the mailing
list folder (if that is how you filter your messages) or otherwise
flag it as important, etc.
5:28 a.m.
New subject: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
On 13. 01. 23 0:35, Chuck Anderson wrote:
For receiving/filtering emails, you can filter on the List-Id:
header
rather than the To: or Cc: headers. In that way you can differentiate
between normal list distribution and Bcc:. If there is no List-Id:
header, the mail can be directed to your Inbox rather than the mailing
list folder (if that is how you filter your messages) or otherwise
flag it as important, etc.
I am afraid this does not work properly with gmail.
Gmail will receive two emails with identical content but different headers (one
with List-Id and one without) and it will "consolidate" the two email into one
by randomly dropping one of them entirely.
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1:53 p.m.
New subject: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
On Fri, 2023-01-13 at 12:28 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 13. 01. 23 0:35, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> For receiving/filtering emails, you can filter on the List-Id: header
> rather than the To: or Cc: headers. In that way you can differentiate
> between normal list distribution and Bcc:. If there is no List-Id:
> header, the mail can be directed to your Inbox rather than the mailing
> list folder (if that is how you filter your messages) or otherwise
> flag it as important, etc.
I am afraid this does not work properly with gmail.
Gmail will receive two emails with identical content but different headers (one
with List-Id and one without) and it will "consolidate" the two email into one
by randomly dropping one of them entirely.
Even if gmail drops the headers, they know at time of receive what is
what (bad magic) so if you use google's own filtering you can tell it
to file messages sent to "this list" under a specific tag, you can also
tell it to keep in inbox if you are explicitly in CC or TO (potentially
requires two separate filters to do that selectively).
It sucks, but it can be worked with to some degree...
If you do your own filtering after fetching emails .... maybe you
should consider a better hosting for your emails...
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1:57 p.m.
New subject: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
On 16. 01. 23 20:53, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Fri, 2023-01-13 at 12:28 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 13. 01. 23 0:35, Chuck Anderson wrote:
>> For receiving/filtering emails, you can filter on the List-Id: header
>> rather than the To: or Cc: headers. In that way you can differentiate
>> between normal list distribution and Bcc:. If there is no List-Id:
>> header, the mail can be directed to your Inbox rather than the mailing
>> list folder (if that is how you filter your messages) or otherwise
>> flag it as important, etc.
>
> I am afraid this does not work properly with gmail.
> Gmail will receive two emails with identical content but different headers (one
> with List-Id and one without) and it will "consolidate" the two email into
one
> by randomly dropping one of them entirely.
Even if gmail drops the headers, they know at time of receive what is
what (bad magic) so if you use google's own filtering you can tell it
to file messages sent to "this list" under a specific tag, you can also
tell it to keep in inbox if you are explicitly in CC or TO (potentially
requires two separate filters to do that selectively).
But can you tell it to keep it in the Inbox if you are Bcc'ed? Because I have
not figured out how to do that and apparently many packagers who are Bcc'ed on
my emails to the list don't know they were Bcc'ed.
It sucks, but it can be worked with to some degree...
If you do your own filtering after fetching emails .... maybe you
should consider a better hosting for your emails...
I use gmail filtering and I cannot change how Red Hat hosts my email.
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