8:05 a.m.
I am sending this because, we have a lot of FTBFS packages which I have
see at least one blog griping about, I accidentally fixed something that
was blocking other work (in the sense that I didn't know that other work
that I wouldn't have to do was waiting for this problem to be solved) and
I fixed something for someone that asked for help in a roundabout way.
We are all not experts in everything and it isn't a problem to ask for
help if you are stuck on something for a package. Someone else on the
devl list (or one of the programming language specific lists) may be able
to easily solve a problem that you could spend hours on without making
a lot of progress.
For those that can help, doing so is a good idea. By removing a blocker
you let someone else do work they can do on Fedora. By showing them
the resolution, they may be able to resolve similar situations when they
see them again, including cases when other developers run across the
problem. It's nice to help your fellow contributors. Fixing things makes
Fedora better for everyone.
8:42 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
I am sending this because, we have a lot of FTBFS packages which I
have
see at least one blog griping about, I accidentally fixed something that
was blocking other work (in the sense that I didn't know that other work
that I wouldn't have to do was waiting for this problem to be solved) and
I fixed something for someone that asked for help in a roundabout way.
We are all not experts in everything and it isn't a problem to ask for
help if you are stuck on something for a package. Someone else on the
devl list (or one of the programming language specific lists) may be able
to easily solve a problem that you could spend hours on without making
a lot of progress.
For those that can help, doing so is a good idea. By removing a blocker
you let someone else do work they can do on Fedora. By showing them
the resolution, they may be able to resolve similar situations when they
see them again, including cases when other developers run across the
problem. It's nice to help your fellow contributors. Fixing things makes
Fedora better for everyone.
Seconded.
And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place
to ask for help on them.
-J
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10:22 p.m.
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
Seconded.
And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place
to ask for help on them.
Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from
fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently
in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial.
Lennart was working on it, but I've not heard from him on that for a few
days.
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8:46 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Seconded.
>
> And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place
> to ask for help on them.
Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from
fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently
in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial.
Lennart was working on it, but I've not heard from him on that for a few
days.
Agreed, it's not likely. And I'm certain my assembler-fu is weaker
than nearly anyone else's, to say nothing of Lennart's. But I may
peek anyway, if for no other reason than to satisfy my own curiosity.
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9:41 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Jon Ciesla <limburgher(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Adam Williamson
<awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>
>> Seconded.
>>
>> And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place
>> to ask for help on them.
>
> Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from
> fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently
> in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial.
>
> Lennart was working on it, but I've not heard from him on that for a few
> days.
Agreed, it's not likely. And I'm certain my assembler-fu is weaker
than nearly anyone else's, to say nothing of Lennart's. But I may
peek anyway, if for no other reason than to satisfy my own curiosity.
Heh. Yeah. No. Way over my head. :/
-J
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9:56 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:22:56 -0800,
Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from
fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently
in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial.
Lennart was working on it, but I've not heard from him on that for a few
days.
It looks like this is on its way to being solved.
Lennart asked about this and in the thread got this reply:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pulseaudio-discuss%40lists.freedesktop.org/ms...
Which referenced this fix.
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bluez.git;a=blob;f=sbc_mmx.patch;...
Even though this is in bluez, it looks like it is probably inlined into
pulseaudio as the file has the same name in pulseaudio.
I tried making the same change in the pulseaudio file and make finished.
(I didn't do a complete change to allow fedpkg local to work.)
So it looks like checking on the status of the bluez update and once that's
in place rebuilding pulseaudio.
I am not sure what will happen if you make the change locally in pulseaudio
and not have the bluez change in place. However, that might be the lesser
of two evils if the current problem is bad enough.
10:06 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:22:56 -0800,
Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from
> fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently
> in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial.
>
> Lennart was working on it, but I've not heard from him on that for a few
> days.
It looks like this is on its way to being solved.
Lennart asked about this and in the thread got this reply:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pulseaudio-discuss%40lists.freedesktop.org/ms...
Which referenced this fix.
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bluez.git;a=blob;f=sbc_mmx.patch;...
Even though this is in bluez, it looks like it is probably inlined into
pulseaudio as the file has the same name in pulseaudio.
I tried making the same change in the pulseaudio file and make finished.
(I didn't do a complete change to allow fedpkg local to work.)
So it looks like checking on the status of the bluez update and once that's
in place rebuilding pulseaudio.
I am not sure what will happen if you make the change locally in pulseaudio
and not have the bluez change in place. However, that might be the lesser
of two evils if the current problem is bad enough.
I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix is on it's way to pulseaudio or
not. Which makes me hesitant to commit a patch, though I would be
happy to if needed.
-J
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10:07 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:21 -0600,
Jon Ciesla <limburgher(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix is on it's way to pulseaudio or
not. Which makes me hesitant to commit a patch, though I would be
happy to if needed.
Bluez has a build from today with the fix.
I'll grab it and see if just installing it (the bluez update) gets pulseaudio
to build. If so I'll fire off a build.
10:10 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:07:14 -0600,
Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:21 -0600,
Jon Ciesla <limburgher(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix is on it's way to pulseaudio or
> not. Which makes me hesitant to commit a patch, though I would be
> happy to if needed.
Bluez has a build from today with the fix.
I'll grab it and see if just installing it (the bluez update) gets pulseaudio
to build. If so I'll fire off a build.
So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing,
but that won't let me easily to an f17 build.
10:15 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:10:36 -0600,
Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:07:14 -0600,
Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:06:21 -0600,
> Jon Ciesla <limburgher(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure, reading that, if the fix is on it's way to pulseaudio or
> > not. Which makes me hesitant to commit a patch, though I would be
> > happy to if needed.
>
> Bluez has a build from today with the fix.
> I'll grab it and see if just installing it (the bluez update) gets pulseaudio
> to build. If so I'll fire off a build.
So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing,
but that won't let me easily to an f17 build.
Nottingham appears to be getting an F17 bluez rebuild ready right now.
10:31 a.m.
Bruno Wolff III (bruno(a)wolff.to) said:
> So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my
testing,
> but that won't let me easily to an f17 build.
Nottingham appears to be getting an F17 bluez rebuild ready right now.
Yes, the only F18 change over F17 was the change to fix this issue. Merged,
built, in bodhi now.
Bill
10:34 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Bruno Wolff III (bruno(a)wolff.to) said:
> > So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing,
> > but that won't let me easily to an f17 build.
>
> Nottingham appears to be getting an F17 bluez rebuild ready right now.
Yes, the only F18 change over F17 was the change to fix this issue. Merged,
built, in bodhi now.
Awesome, thanks all!
See what happens? :)
-J
Bill
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10:41 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:31:09 -0500,
Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Bruno Wolff III (bruno(a)wolff.to) said:
> > So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing,
> > but that won't let me easily to an f17 build.
>
> Nottingham appears to be getting an F17 bluez rebuild ready right now.
Yes, the only F18 change over F17 was the change to fix this issue. Merged,
built, in bodhi now.
A local rebuild of pulseaudio didn't seem to pick up the change. So
it seems likely that pulseaudio will need an analogous patch.
11:42 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:41:25 -0600,
Bruno Wolff III <bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:31:09 -0500,
Bill Nottingham <notting(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Bruno Wolff III (bruno(a)wolff.to) said:
> > > So far there is only an f18 bluez build. That will work for my testing,
> > > but that won't let me easily to an f17 build.
> >
> > Nottingham appears to be getting an F17 bluez rebuild ready right now.
>
> Yes, the only F18 change over F17 was the change to fix this issue. Merged,
> built, in bodhi now.
A local rebuild of pulseaudio didn't seem to pick up the change. So
it seems likely that pulseaudio will need an analogous patch.
I can't do this now, but if there isn't a new pulseaudio build tonight
(about 9 hours from now), I'll try to make one.
10:33 a.m.
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Even though this is in bluez, it looks like it is probably inlined
into
pulseaudio as the file has the same name in pulseaudio.
You still need to apply the same patch to the pulseaudio package, just
rebuilding against the updated bluez won't magically fix it.
Kevin Kofler
10:25 p.m.
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 20:22:56 -0800,
Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Seconded.
>
> And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place
> to ask for help on them.
Well, pulseaudio doesn't currently build, and that's preventing us from
fixing the bug that audio doesn't work in F17. The problem is apparently
in assembler code, though, so fixing it is unlikely to be trivial.
Lennart was working on it, but I've not heard from him on that for a few
days.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/pulseaudio-1.1-8.fc17 includes
both an analog of the bluez fix and Lennart's pending fix for bug
794690 (the CK sound issue).
I did a similar build for rawhide, but the patch order got reversed.
10:16 a.m.
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 08:42 -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Bruno Wolff III
<bruno(a)wolff.to> wrote:
> I am sending this because, we have a lot of FTBFS packages which I have
> see at least one blog griping about, I accidentally fixed something that
> was blocking other work (in the sense that I didn't know that other work
> that I wouldn't have to do was waiting for this problem to be solved) and
> I fixed something for someone that asked for help in a roundabout way.
>
> We are all not experts in everything and it isn't a problem to ask for
> help if you are stuck on something for a package. Someone else on the
> devl list (or one of the programming language specific lists) may be able
> to easily solve a problem that you could spend hours on without making
> a lot of progress.
>
> For those that can help, doing so is a good idea. By removing a blocker
> you let someone else do work they can do on Fedora. By showing them
> the resolution, they may be able to resolve similar situations when they
> see them again, including cases when other developers run across the
> problem. It's nice to help your fellow contributors. Fixing things makes
> Fedora better for everyone.
Seconded.
And if anyone has gcc47 or libpng FTBFS issues, this is a great place
to ask for help on them.
I have with VirtualBox (again)
but is a Kbuild problem
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=7356
The biggest problem (now) is with one package on fedora kbuild ?
kmk_sed stops to work correctly on F17 .
/usr/bin/kmk_sed:
file /builddir/build/BUILD/VirtualBox-4.1.8_OSE/src/VBox/Runtime/common/err/errmsg.sed
line 31: Unmatched [ or [^
see this bug report, please:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10160
any clue is welcomed
Thanks,
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