10:53 a.m.
Hey. pep8 is no longer released upstream and its successor is called pycodestyle.
I plan to retire python-pep8, as tracked in [1], however there are still too
many consumers of python3-pep8. On the other hand, python2-pep8 is only
buildrequired by:
cachedir - already FTBFS, not dependent upon
genbackupdata - already FTBFS, fails to install, not dependent upon
ovirt-guest-agent - already FTBFS, not dependent upon outside of subpackages
pylast - python2-pylast is not dependent upon
python-cliapp - python2-cliapp is required by:
cachedir
cmdtest - FTBFS, fails to install, required by:
cachedir
genbackupdata
python-larch - FTBFS, not dependent upon outside of subpackages
genbackupdata
python-larch
Maintainers by package:
cachedir mathstuf
cmdtest salimma
genbackupdata salimma
ovirt-guest-agent evilissimo nyoxi
pylast peter
python-cliapp salimma
python-larch salimma
Packages by maintainer:
evilissimo ovirt-guest-agent
mathstuf cachedir
nyoxi ovirt-guest-agent
peter pylast
salimma cmdtest genbackupdata python-cliapp python-larch
Would you like to take python2-pep8? I'd advice against, please update to Python
3 and/or pycodestyle instead.
This is my attempt to follow [2].
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667200
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F31_Mass_Python_2_Package_Removal#...
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4:20 p.m.
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:53:03 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
Maintainers by package:
cachedir mathstuf
cmdtest salimma
genbackupdata salimma
python-cliapp salimma
python-larch salimma
These are all packages from obnam which is now retired/EOL. I think
larch and genbackupdata can probably be retired (though maybe others
find genbackupdata useful?). cachedir is still useful and uses cliapp.
cmdtest *could* be dropped; it is only used for the testing in cachedir
(as is pep8), but running the testsuite is nice-to-have.
--Ben
7:28 a.m.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:20:02 -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote:
[ Removed pylast and ovirt-guest-agent emails from Cc. ]
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:53:03 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Maintainers by package:
> cachedir mathstuf
> cmdtest salimma
> genbackupdata salimma
> python-cliapp salimma
> python-larch salimma
These are all packages from obnam which is now retired/EOL. I think
larch and genbackupdata can probably be retired (though maybe others
find genbackupdata useful?). cachedir is still useful and uses cliapp.
cmdtest *could* be dropped; it is only used for the testing in cachedir
(as is pep8), but running the testsuite is nice-to-have.
Talking with Lars Wirzenius, upstream for this stack, he has no interest
in Python3 support for this stack (well, explicitly about cachedir; I'm
assuming about the others) and would prefer a new maintainer for them if
such work were to occur. Should we discuss with other distributions
about doing this or just start the retirement process? Note that Lars is
the Debian packager, so I imagine we can skip that part.
--Ben
7:43 a.m.
On 24. 04. 19 14:28, Ben Boeckel wrote:
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:20:02 -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote:
> [ Removed pylast and ovirt-guest-agent emails from Cc. ]
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:53:03 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
>> Maintainers by package:
>> cachedir mathstuf
>> cmdtest salimma
>> genbackupdata salimma
>> python-cliapp salimma
>> python-larch salimma
>
> These are all packages from obnam which is now retired/EOL. I think
> larch and genbackupdata can probably be retired (though maybe others
> find genbackupdata useful?). cachedir is still useful and uses cliapp.
> cmdtest *could* be dropped; it is only used for the testing in cachedir
> (as is pep8), but running the testsuite is nice-to-have.
Talking with Lars Wirzenius, upstream for this stack, he has no interest
in Python3 support for this stack (well, explicitly about cachedir; I'm
assuming about the others) and would prefer a new maintainer for them if
such work were to occur. Should we discuss with other distributions
about doing this or just start the retirement process? Note that Lars is
the Debian packager, so I imagine we can skip that part.
Whatever works for you. As the Python maintainer I care for 2 things:
- move away from pep8 to pycodestyle
- move to Python 3 or retire from Fedora
My e-mail was mostly about the first thing.
If the upstream maintainer as no interest in Python 3 support, I guess we have
no interest in cachedir.
Disclaimer: I don't know or use cachedir. However from the first glance, it
looks like something that could be reimplemented in a Bash one-liner.
Could you please elaborate on its importance to Fedora? Because I don't really
see it. I might be missing something.
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8:12 a.m.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 14:43:39 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
If the upstream maintainer as no interest in Python 3 support, I
guess we have
no interest in cachedir.
That's my thought as well.
Disclaimer: I don't know or use cachedir. However from the first
glance, it
looks like something that could be reimplemented in a Bash one-liner.
Could you please elaborate on its importance to Fedora? Because I don't really
see it. I might be missing something.
I use it for tagging and untagging cache directories for by backup tool
of choice (restic) to avoid backing up things like my browser cache or
other things that don't "matter".
It could probably be replaced with a short script or other small tool.
But maintaining Bash code is worse than maintaining Python2 code IMO, so
maybe I'll find some time to rewrite it in Python3 using something like
click to avoid having to port cliapp and cmdtest as well.
--Ben
1:25 p.m.
On 22. 04. 19 17:53, Miro Hrončok wrote:
Hey. pep8 is no longer released upstream and its successor is called
pycodestyle.
I plan to retire python-pep8, as tracked in [1], however there are still too
many consumers of python3-pep8. On the other hand, python2-pep8 is only
buildrequired by:
cachedir - already FTBFS, not dependent upon
genbackupdata - already FTBFS, fails to install, not dependent upon
ovirt-guest-agent - already FTBFS, not dependent upon outside of subpackages
pylast - python2-pylast is not dependent upon
python-cliapp - python2-cliapp is required by:
cachedir
cmdtest - FTBFS, fails to install, required by:
cachedir
genbackupdata
python-larch - FTBFS, not dependent upon outside of subpackages
genbackupdata
python-larch
Maintainers by package:
cachedir mathstuf
cmdtest salimma
genbackupdata salimma
ovirt-guest-agent evilissimo nyoxi
pylast peter
python-cliapp salimma
python-larch salimma
Packages by maintainer:
evilissimo ovirt-guest-agent
mathstuf cachedir
nyoxi ovirt-guest-agent
peter pylast
salimma cmdtest genbackupdata python-cliapp python-larch
Would you like to take python2-pep8? I'd advice against, please update to Python
3 and/or pycodestyle instead.
This is my attempt to follow [2].
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667200
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F31_Mass_Python_2_Package_Removal#...
Bump.
$ dnf repoquery --repo=compose{,-source} --whatrequires python2-pep8
cachedir-0:1.4-3.fc28.src
genbackupdata-0:1.9-9.fc30.src
ovirt-guest-agent-0:1.0.14-1.fc29.3.src
python-cliapp-0:1.20180121-1.fc30.src
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1:33 p.m.
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 20:25:01 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
Bump.
$ dnf repoquery --repo=compose{,-source} --whatrequires python2-pep8
cachedir-0:1.4-3.fc28.src
I'll retire this. Upstream doesn't want to deal with Python3 and rather
than just removing the testing and dealing with Python2 package
deprecation/removal later too, it's easier to just end it now.
--Ben
6:36 a.m.
On 03. 05. 19 20:25, Miro Hrončok wrote:
On 22. 04. 19 17:53, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Hey. pep8 is no longer released upstream and its successor is called pycodestyle.
>
> I plan to retire python-pep8, as tracked in [1], however there are still too
> many consumers of python3-pep8. On the other hand, python2-pep8 is only
> buildrequired by:
>
> cachedir - already FTBFS, not dependent upon
> genbackupdata - already FTBFS, fails to install, not dependent upon
> ovirt-guest-agent - already FTBFS, not dependent upon outside of subpackages
> pylast - python2-pylast is not dependent upon
> python-cliapp - python2-cliapp is required by:
> cachedir
> cmdtest - FTBFS, fails to install, required by:
> cachedir
> genbackupdata
> python-larch - FTBFS, not dependent upon outside of subpackages
> genbackupdata
> python-larch
>
> Maintainers by package:
> cachedir mathstuf
> cmdtest salimma
> genbackupdata salimma
> ovirt-guest-agent evilissimo nyoxi
> pylast peter
> python-cliapp salimma
> python-larch salimma
>
> Packages by maintainer:
> evilissimo ovirt-guest-agent
> mathstuf cachedir
> nyoxi ovirt-guest-agent
> peter pylast
> salimma cmdtest genbackupdata python-cliapp python-larch
>
>
> Would you like to take python2-pep8? I'd advice against, please update to
> Python 3 and/or pycodestyle instead.
>
> This is my attempt to follow [2].
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1667200
> [2]
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F31_Mass_Python_2_Package_Removal#...
Bump.
$ dnf repoquery --repo=compose{,-source} --whatrequires python2-pep8
cachedir-0:1.4-3.fc28.src
genbackupdata-0:1.9-9.fc30.src
ovirt-guest-agent-0:1.0.14-1.fc29.3.src
python-cliapp-0:1.20180121-1.fc30.src
Bump.
$ dnf repoquery --repo=compose{,-source} --whatrequires python2-pep8
cachedir-0:1.4-3.fc28.src
genbackupdata-0:1.9-9.fc30.src
python-cliapp-0:1.20180121-1.fc30.src
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