2:18 p.m.
The subject speaks for itself. Mozilla 1.5 has been stable for a while
now yet 1.4 is still what's in the devel tree. What gives?
-sb
2:26 p.m.
In the same vein, are there any plans for migration to
Firebird/Thunderbird? Or do the Mozilla packages need to be kept in for
Nautilus support?
I imagine the best solution would be to have a gecko renderer package,
and seperate 'frontends' (Firebird, Epiphany, Mozilla-proper, Nautilus
etc) would depend on it.
Is any work being done in this area?
--Jon Atkinson
Stan Bubrouski wrote:
The subject speaks for itself. Mozilla 1.5 has been stable for a
while
now yet 1.4 is still what's in the devel tree. What gives?
-sb
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1:40 a.m.
Stan Bubrouski wrote:
The subject speaks for itself. Mozilla 1.5 has been stable for a
while
now yet 1.4 is still what's in the devel tree. What gives?
At around the time of FC1 release there were known and demonstratable
major problems with 1.5. If you look at FreshRPMS list you will see
complaints about 1.5 I believe from Dag's repository. Also upgrading to
1.5 so soon before the release of FC1 would have wasted all of the
months of QA testing done during the three Severn betas. We KNOW that
1.4.1 is reasonably stable after the many months of testing.
Blizzard has mentioned that we will skip 1.5 for now, and if 1.6 final
proves to be stable it may become an update for FC1 at a later date.
IMHO most people don't really need the improvements found in the more
recent mozilla versions too. If you do want those features however,
nothing stops you from upgrading mozilla yourself.
Warren
3:11 a.m.
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 21:26, Jon Atkinson wrote:
In the same vein, are there any plans for migration to
Firebird/Thunderbird? Or do the Mozilla packages need to be kept in for
Nautilus support?
I imagine the best solution would be to have a gecko renderer package,
and seperate 'frontends' (Firebird, Epiphany, Mozilla-proper, Nautilus
etc) would depend on it.
Is any work being done in this area?
Look on the mozilla site for more information, but work is being done to
extract the "gecko runtime environment" from the browser suite. There
are even some experimental GRE builds.
Klaasjan
3:14 a.m.
At around the time of FC1 release there were known and
demonstratable
major problems with 1.5. If you look at FreshRPMS list you will see
complaints about 1.5 I believe from Dag's repository. Also upgrading to
1.5 so soon before the release of FC1 would have wasted all of the
months of QA testing done during the three Severn betas. We KNOW that
1.4.1 is reasonably stable after the many months of testing.
I would agree with this.
Blizzard has mentioned that we will skip 1.5 for now, and if 1.6
final
proves to be stable it may become an update for FC1 at a later date.
IMHO most people don't really need the improvements found in the more
recent mozilla versions too. If you do want those features however,
nothing stops you from upgrading mozilla yourself.
I think 1.6 would be very worthwhile as it contains support for NTLM auth which a
lot of users (my users/clients at least) use as it allows them to use all those
nasty sites like Outlook web acces and most sites that run on MS products and use
authentication.
I know its allowed me to use three or four sites under linux that I could previously
only use with the dreaded IE
And its also due out any day now and hence will be able to be in there for the
entire beta peroid.
Peter
11:07 a.m.
On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 02:40, Warren Togami wrote:
Stan Bubrouski wrote:
> The subject speaks for itself. Mozilla 1.5 has been stable for a while
> now yet 1.4 is still what's in the devel tree. What gives?
>
At around the time of FC1 release there were known and demonstratable
major problems with 1.5. If you look at FreshRPMS list you will see
complaints about 1.5 I believe from Dag's repository. Also upgrading to
I'm sure to fix any bugs wouldn't be much more patching than 1.4 has in
it...and I was asking why it wasn't in the devel tree, not FC1, I
completely understand why its not in FC1.
1.5 so soon before the release of FC1 would have wasted all of the
months of QA testing done during the three Severn betas. We KNOW that
1.4.1 is reasonably stable after the many months of testing.
Again talking devel tree.
Blizzard has mentioned that we will skip 1.5 for now, and if 1.6
final
proves to be stable it may become an update for FC1 at a later date.
Whatever happened to the whole thunderbird and firebird thing? Seems
like the main tree is still very much active in the singular sense.
IMHO most people don't really need the improvements found in the
more
recent mozilla versions too. If you do want those features however,
nothing stops you from upgrading mozilla yourself.
I'm well aware I can do that, but I'd rather use a package built
specifically for FC devel with patches from this community not outsiders
(by that I mean people patching for other distros). Besides I wouldn't
recommend installing Mozilla from non-packaged formats it leaves a lot
of mess behind IMHO.
-sb
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Stan Bubrouski wrote:
>Blizzard has mentioned that we will skip 1.5 for now, and if 1.6
final
>proves to be stable it may become an update for FC1 at a later date.
Whatever happened to the whole thunderbird and firebird thing? Seems
like the main tree is still very much active in the singular sense.
Blizzard has mentioned that he likes Firebird and Thunderbird, but at
the moment they lack smooth automatic import functionality to transition
from the older browser & mail client. There is also the huge xremote
conflict problem and broken /usr/bin/mozilla script to deal with.
For the moment please try MozillaFirebird from fedora.us stable and
MozillaThunderbird from here:
https://bugzilla.fedora.us/show_bug.cgi?id=1113
I think I solved the xremote conflict problem. It also works nicely
with the browser that you choose in Preferences -> Preferred
Applications. I believe MozillaThunderbird is finally ready to be
published, so somebody QA it damn it! =)
Warren
11:26 a.m.
Stan Bubrouski wrote:
The subject speaks for itself. Mozilla 1.5 has been stable for a
while
now yet 1.4 is still what's in the devel tree. What gives?
I was waiting for 1.6 to put something new in the devel tree. It
shouldn't be too long before it is released.
--Chris
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11:27 a.m.
Jon Atkinson wrote:
In the same vein, are there any plans for migration to
Firebird/Thunderbird? Or do the Mozilla packages need to be kept in
for Nautilus support?
1. Firebird/Thunderbird aren't 1.0 products yet. They aren't cooked enough.
2. They don't include any migration tools for old profiles.
I imagine the best solution would be to have a gecko renderer package,
and seperate 'frontends' (Firebird, Epiphany, Mozilla-proper, Nautilus
etc) would depend on it.
Yeah, it would be nice to have that. People are working on it. (It
needs to be the full XRE, not just the GRE as mentioned elsewhere in
this thread.)
--Chris
Is any work being done in this area?
--Jon Atkinson
Stan Bubrouski wrote:
> The subject speaks for itself. Mozilla 1.5 has been stable for a while
> now yet 1.4 is still what's in the devel tree. What gives?
>
> -sb
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