.649 and .667 kernels and random lockups

[seth vidal]

Hi Everyone,
 I've upgraded two machines to fc3rc5(ish) and then upgraded again to
latest rawhide. I've been running the .649 and .667 kernels on these two
systems. One is a dell dimension 2400 - p4 2.8ghz the other is an ibm
x23 thinkpad - p3-866mhz. Both of them will lockup if they sit idle for
a while. It's a hard lock up, I can't free them of it and I have no idea
what causes it. Is anyone else seeing this, too?

Thanks
-sv

[Ralf Ertzinger]

On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:10:06AM -0500, seth vidal wrote:

>  a while. It's a hard lock up, I can't free them of it and I
> have no idea
>  what causes it. Is anyone else seeing this, too? 
No problems with both that are not already in bugzilla (no lockups).

1200MHz Duron, no ACPI

[Matthias Saou]

seth vidal wrote :

>  Hi Everyone,
>   I've upgraded two machines to fc3rc5(ish) and then upgraded again to
>  latest rawhide. I've been running the .649 and .667 kernels on these two
>  systems. One is a dell dimension 2400 - p4 2.8ghz the other is an ibm
>  x23 thinkpad - p3-866mhz. Both of them will lockup if they sit idle for
>  a while. It's a hard lock up, I can't free them of it and I have no idea
>  what causes it. Is anyone else seeing this, too? 
The only lockups I see with .649 are sometimes when coming out of S3, and
most of the time a few seconds after "umount -f"'ing nfs mounts (that I
often forget to umount before going into S3 and changing location/network
:-/).

I've left my laptop (Dell Inspiron 8600) idle every night since Monday
without a hitch.

Matthias

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[Brian Millett]

>  Hi Everyone,
>   I've upgraded two machines to fc3rc5(ish) and then upgraded again to
>  latest rawhide. I've been running the .649 and .667 kernels on these two
>  systems. One is a dell dimension 2400 - p4 2.8ghz the other is an ibm
>  x23 thinkpad - p3-866mhz. Both of them will lockup if they sit idle for
>  a while. It's a hard lock up, I can't free them of it and I have no idea
>  what causes it. Is anyone else seeing this, too? 
Seth, I have.  I have a toshiba 1135-S155 laptop running rawhide.  I've
noticed that several times as I am composing an email in evolution or once
in openoffice, the system will freeze.  The disk light is solid.  If I am
quick, I can get to a virtual terminal as X is locked.  The top process is
kswapd0.  It happens randomly.  I have not been able to determine if this
happens only when RAM is getting full, or if VM is getting full.  I can
get it to stop ONLY when I am in the vertual term and I wait for kswapd0
to stop.  Then I can go back to X and work.  I have no idea what the
underlying problem is.  I first thought it was OO and fonts because the
problem went away when I changed all of the fonts in teh document to be
the same.  But then it has happened in evolution, so I do not know any
more.


-- 
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[Dave Mack]

seth vidal wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>  I've upgraded two machines to fc3rc5(ish) and then upgraded again to
> latest rawhide. I've been running the .649 and .667 kernels on these two
> systems. One is a dell dimension 2400 - p4 2.8ghz the other is an ibm
> x23 thinkpad - p3-866mhz. Both of them will lockup if they sit idle for
> a while. It's a hard lock up, I can't free them of it and I have no idea
> what causes it. Is anyone else seeing this, too?
>
> Thanks
> -sv
>
>
>   
>  
Don't know about rawhide, but on FC2 I've had the screensaver put my 
machines into a state where they have to be powercycled. Turning off 
screensaver or judiciously choosing a single screensaver to run every 
time instead of allowing random selection has solved the problem.

Dave

[Dave Jones]

On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 02:08:51PM -0800, Dave Mack wrote:

>  >I've upgraded two machines to fc3rc5(ish) and then upgraded
> again to
>  >latest rawhide. I've been running the .649 and .667 kernels on these two
>  >systems. One is a dell dimension 2400 - p4 2.8ghz the other is an ibm
>  >x23 thinkpad - p3-866mhz. Both of them will lockup if they sit idle for
>  >a while. It's a hard lock up, I can't free them of it and I have no idea
>  >what causes it. Is anyone else seeing this, too?
>  >
>  Don't know about rawhide, but on FC2 I've had the screensaver put my 
>  machines into a state where they have to be powercycled. Turning off 
>  screensaver or judiciously choosing a single screensaver to run every 
>  time instead of allowing random selection has solved the problem. 
strong suspects here are the 3D screensavers. They've been known
to expose problems in 3d graphics drivers (both DRI and the binary
only ones) before.

If you're using a free 3d driver, you might want to try and narrow
it down to a specific screensaver, and tell the dri folks.

		Dave