Hi,
I haven't looked at this implementation yet, but I've been cheerleading the idea.
Havoc
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 02:33, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
I haven't looked at this implementation yet, but I've been cheerleading the idea.
Hi,
I'm the author of the HAL stuff, and at some point (around hal-0.2 or later, when things stabilize), I'd probably take my chances, package it up and ask for inclusion of in fedora extras.
Now, HAL right now depends on d-bus, python and will depend on a late version of hotplug. And it will work somewhat better with 2.6 kernel. So two questions come to mind:
1. I see that hotplug-2002_04_01 is current in fedora core; are there any reasons that later packages e.g. hotplug-2003_08_05 + hotplug-base-2003_08_05 isn't shipped?
2. Will there be a 2.6 kernel in extras anytime soon? (Late version of hotplug is required to handle new kernel events, e.g. scsi)
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David Zeuthen (david@fubar.dk) said:
- I see that hotplug-2002_04_01 is current in fedora core; are there any reasons that later packages e.g. hotplug-2003_08_05 + hotplug-base-2003_08_05 isn't shipped?
Not enough round tuits.
- Will there be a 2.6 kernel in extras anytime soon? (Late version of hotplug is required to handle new kernel events, e.g. scsi)
There's Arjan's kernel at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/
Bill
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 08:32:15PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
David Zeuthen (david@fubar.dk) said:
- I see that hotplug-2002_04_01 is current in fedora core; are there any reasons that later packages e.g. hotplug-2003_08_05 + hotplug-base-2003_08_05 isn't shipped?
Not enough round tuits.
Is there anything I can do as the person who releases the hotplug packages?
I notice that Red Hat does tweak the way the hotplug package starts up (as part of the rc.sysinit script) and doesn't use the /etc/init.d/hotplug service script. Any big reason why? Anything I can do to the main package to help Red Hat out? I know we've made changes to help Debian out :)
- Will there be a 2.6 kernel in extras anytime soon? (Late version of hotplug is required to handle new kernel events, e.g. scsi)
There's Arjan's kernel at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/
The initscripts complain in a few places with a 2.6 kernel (no /proc/bus/usb/drivers for example). Care for me to send patches for this against the latest cvs tree?
thanks,
greg k-h
Greg KH (greg@kroah.com) said:
- I see that hotplug-2002_04_01 is current in fedora core; are there any reasons that later packages e.g. hotplug-2003_08_05 + hotplug-base-2003_08_05 isn't shipped?
Not enough round tuits.
Is there anything I can do as the person who releases the hotplug packages?
Give me more hours in a day. :)
I notice that Red Hat does tweak the way the hotplug package starts up (as part of the rc.sysinit script) and doesn't use the /etc/init.d/hotplug service script. Any big reason why?
As I recall...
a) we didn't do anything with PCI events b) halfway through the runlevel is way too late to start USB
Anything I can do to the main package to help Red Hat out? I know we've made changes to help Debian out :)
Honestly, I'm of the opinion that usb host controllers, HID layer, and the HID keyboard driver should be built into the kernel and not managed that way by hotplug at all. That's sort of unrelated to the hotplug scripts themselves, though.
- Will there be a 2.6 kernel in extras anytime soon? (Late version of hotplug is required to handle new kernel events, e.g. scsi)
There's Arjan's kernel at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/
The initscripts complain in a few places with a 2.6 kernel (no /proc/bus/usb/drivers for example). Care for me to send patches for this against the latest cvs tree?
Sure, just make sure they don't break booting 2.4 as well. :)
Some of it will probably be handled for this release by backwards compat aliases in modutils.
Bill
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:42:30PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Honestly, I'm of the opinion that usb host controllers, HID layer, and the HID keyboard driver should be built into the kernel and not managed that way by hotplug at all. That's sort of unrelated to the hotplug scripts themselves, though.
Go bug your kernel packagers :)
- Will there be a 2.6 kernel in extras anytime soon? (Late version of hotplug is required to handle new kernel events, e.g. scsi)
There's Arjan's kernel at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/
The initscripts complain in a few places with a 2.6 kernel (no /proc/bus/usb/drivers for example). Care for me to send patches for this against the latest cvs tree?
Sure, just make sure they don't break booting 2.4 as well. :)
Ok, I'll go test my changes on a 2.4 kernel (haven't booted one of them in a long time...)
thanks,
greg k-h