Where did the Fedora 8 CVS go to?

[Mark]

Hey,

i was just about to donwload the latest kernel package but the CVS i
know: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=core
isn't updated with the latest kernel.. it seems to be the latest F7
kernel (not even the latest).

Some info:
I have: kernel build 3194.fc7
That CVS has build: 3125 (older than what i have and mine was
downloaded with normal updates)
The kernel that is available for F8
(ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/)
is: 3244.f8

So now i wonder where the svn or cvs is with that kernel on it? or
just the latest development  files.

Thanx,
Mark.

[Oliver Falk]

On 07/04/2007 03:19 PM, Mark wrote:
>  Hey,
>  
>  i was just about to donwload the latest kernel package but the CVS i
>  know: 
>  http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=core 
 
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=extras

Better look in extras repo :-)

-of

[Mark]

i thought they merged.
guess that's not true for the CVS yet.

Thanx for pointing me there.

2007/7/4, Oliver Falk <oliver(a)linux-kernel.at&gt;:
>  On 07/04/2007 03:19 PM, Mark wrote:
>  > Hey,
>  >
>  > i was just about to donwload the latest kernel package but the CVS i
>  > know:
>  > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=core
>    http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=extras
>
>  Better look in extras repo :-)
>
>  -of
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[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Mer 4 juillet 2007 15:27, Mark a écrit :
>  i thought they merged.
>  guess that's not true for the CVS yet. 
The merge target is the former extras cvs

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

[Till Maas]

On Mi Juli 4 2007, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>  Le Mer 4 juillet 2007 15:27, Mark a écrit :
>  > i thought they merged.
>  > guess that's not true for the CVS yet.
>
>  The merge target is the former extras cvs 
No, no, no, everything is in pkgs now.

Regards,
Till

[Jesse Keating]

On Wednesday 04 July 2007 09:44:55 Till Maas wrote:
>  No, no, no, everything is in pkgs now. 
To which 'extras' is a symlink to (:

-- 
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora

[Oliver Falk]

On 07/04/2007 03:27 PM, Mark wrote:
>  i thought they merged. 
it is.

>  guess that's not true for the CVS yet. 
it is merged, but under 'extras'. :-)

>  Thanx for pointing me there. 
no problem.

[Mark]

and what is the cvs checkout line?
lets take for example that i want to checkout the latest kernel.

the documentation here is kinda outdated (Fedora Core 2 latest)
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/docs.shtml.
but the part where i'm losing it is here:
CVSROOT=:pserver:[e-mail]:/cvs/docs
for the newest kernel this would mean??

tough gamble:
viewcvs = http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=extras
CVSROOT=:pserver:[e-mail]:/cvs/devel/extras/kernel ??

Some documentation on this would be good :)

2007/7/4, Oliver Falk <oliver(a)linux-kernel.at&gt;:
>  On 07/04/2007 03:27 PM, Mark wrote:
>  > i thought they merged.
>
>  it is.
>
>  > guess that's not true for the CVS yet.
>
>  it is merged, but under 'extras'. :-)
>
>  > Thanx for pointing me there.
>
>  no problem.
>
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>

[Till Maas]

On Mi Juli 4 2007, Mark wrote:
>  and what is the cvs checkout line?
>  lets take for example that i want to checkout the latest kernel.
>
>  the documentation here is kinda outdated (Fedora Core 2 latest)
>  http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/docs.shtml. 
There is uptodate documentation in the wiki:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CvsAccess

The following commandline checks out the kernel cvs devel branch:
$ CVSROOT=:pserver:[e-mail]:/cvs/pkgs cvs co 
rpms/kernel/devel

Regards,
Till

[Mark]

so there it's hidden ^_^ thanx.


2007/7/4, Till Maas <opensource(a)till.name&gt;:
>  On Mi Juli 4 2007, Mark wrote:
>  > and what is the cvs checkout line?
>  > lets take for example that i want to checkout the latest kernel.
>  >
>  > the documentation here is kinda outdated (Fedora Core 2 latest)
>  > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/docs.shtml.
>
>  There is uptodate documentation in the wiki:
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CvsAccess
>
>  The following commandline checks out the kernel cvs devel branch:
>  $ CVSROOT=:pserver:[e-mail]:/cvs/pkgs cvs co
>  rpms/kernel/devel
>
>  Regards,
>  Till
>
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[Mark]

oke.. now i'm having a little more complex question also about the kernel.
when i do: "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" i get this output within
about a minute:

Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.src.rpm
Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/kernel-headers-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.i386.rpm

(this was tested with the F7 kernel source but i also tested it with
the F8 kernel source. both have the same result as above.. just
another version)

and more but that's what i want to know. now when running the rpmbuild
line i expected the full kernel to be compiled.. not just the headers
and the source rpm. so the question is: how do i compile the kernel
the fedora way?

or is this the way how it should be done:
http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora if that's the case
i will just follow that tutorial. but this (couldn't find it on the
wiki) is important information to get in the fedora wiki.

And the reason why i want to have this new kernel is mainly because
iwl (whatever the name was) just the wireless drivers that should be
alot more stable in this kernel than in 2.6.21

2007/7/4, Mark <markg85(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  so there it's hidden ^_^ thanx.
>
>
>  2007/7/4, Till Maas <opensource(a)till.name&gt;:
>  > On Mi Juli 4 2007, Mark wrote:
>  > > and what is the cvs checkout line?
>  > > lets take for example that i want to checkout the latest kernel.
>  > >
>  > > the documentation here is kinda outdated (Fedora Core 2 latest)
>  > > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/docs.shtml.
>  >
>  > There is uptodate documentation in the wiki:
>  >
>  > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CvsAccess
>  >
>  > The following commandline checks out the kernel cvs devel branch:
>  > $ CVSROOT=:pserver:[e-mail]:/cvs/pkgs cvs co
>  > rpms/kernel/devel
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Till
>  >
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[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 16:28 +0200, Mark wrote:
>  oke.. now i'm having a little more complex question also about
> the kernel.
>  when i do: "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" i get this output within
>  about a minute:
>  
>  Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.src.rpm
>  Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/kernel-headers-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.i386.rpm
>  
>  (this was tested with the F7 kernel source but i also tested it with
>  the F8 kernel source. both have the same result as above.. just
>  another version)
>  
>  and more but that's what i want to know. now when running the rpmbuild
>  line i expected the full kernel to be compiled.. not just the headers
>  and the source rpm. so the question is: how do i compile the kernel
>  the fedora way?
>  
>  or is this the way how it should be done:
>  http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora if that's the case
>  i will just follow that tutorial. but this (couldn't find it on the
>  wiki) is important information to get in the fedora wiki.
>  
>  And the reason why i want to have this new kernel is mainly because
>  iwl (whatever the name was) just the wireless drivers that should be
>  alot more stable in this kernel than in 2.6.21
>   
This will help you::
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Kernel.html

In your specific case you're missing the --target $(uname -m)

-Toshio

[Mark]

Thanx for the reply but i'm stuck after step 10.
after step 10 it says: "You may then proceed as usual."
and what is that? is that make rpm? or rpmbuild in some special location?

the notice below step 10 says: "Normally, kernels for Fedora are built
using the rpmbuild utility and a specfile. Your results may vary if
you use the kernel's built-in make rpm target." but that doesn't
answer the question.to me it indicates that both make rpm and rpmbuild
are possible.. but than again.. where can i do rpmbuild on the kernel?

That documentation should be expanded with the full guide for making a rpm.

2007/7/4, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 16:28 +0200, Mark wrote:
>  > oke.. now i'm having a little more complex question also about the kernel.
>  > when i do: "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" i get this output within
>  > about a minute:
>  >
>  > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.src.rpm
>  > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/kernel-headers-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.i386.rpm
>  >
>  > (this was tested with the F7 kernel source but i also tested it with
>  > the F8 kernel source. both have the same result as above.. just
>  > another version)
>  >
>  > and more but that's what i want to know. now when running the rpmbuild
>  > line i expected the full kernel to be compiled.. not just the headers
>  > and the source rpm. so the question is: how do i compile the kernel
>  > the fedora way?
>  >
>  > or is this the way how it should be done:
>  > http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora if that's the case
>  > i will just follow that tutorial. but this (couldn't find it on the
>  > wiki) is important information to get in the fedora wiki.
>  >
>  > And the reason why i want to have this new kernel is mainly because
>  > iwl (whatever the name was) just the wireless drivers that should be
>  > alot more stable in this kernel than in 2.6.21
>  >
>
>  This will help you::
>  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Kernel.html
>
>  In your specific case you're missing the --target $(uname -m)
>
>  -Toshio
>
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>
>

[Oliver Falk]

On 07/04/2007 05:52 PM, Mark wrote:
>  Thanx for the reply but i'm stuck after step 10.
>  after step 10 it says: "You may then proceed as usual."
>  and what is that? is that make rpm? or rpmbuild in some special location?
>  
>  the notice below step 10 says: "Normally, kernels for Fedora are built
>  using the rpmbuild utility and a specfile. Your results may vary if
>  you use the kernel's built-in make rpm target." but that doesn't
>  answer the question.to me it indicates that both make rpm and rpmbuild
>  are possible.. but than again.. where can i do rpmbuild on the kernel?
>  
>  That documentation should be expanded with the full guide for making a rpm. 
Either do
>  make i686 
or
>  make srpm; rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 *.src.rpm 
-of

PS: Or any other platform you want.

[Mark]

hmm.. make srpm doesn't seem to be valid
"make: *** No rule to make target `srpm'.  Stop."
the issue that i have is that i would like to have the rpm itself to
make the grub changes and add the file in the /boot folder. (so just
the same that a default kernel rpm does).. i'm not quite sure if the
current RPM will do this for me..

i'm just doing make i686 now and will see what hapens.

2007/7/4, Oliver Falk <oliver(a)linux-kernel.at&gt;:
>  On 07/04/2007 05:52 PM, Mark wrote:
>  > Thanx for the reply but i'm stuck after step 10.
>  > after step 10 it says: "You may then proceed as usual."
>  > and what is that? is that make rpm? or rpmbuild in some special location?
>  >
>  > the notice below step 10 says: "Normally, kernels for Fedora are built
>  > using the rpmbuild utility and a specfile. Your results may vary if
>  > you use the kernel's built-in make rpm target." but that doesn't
>  > answer the question.to me it indicates that both make rpm and rpmbuild
>  > are possible.. but than again.. where can i do rpmbuild on the kernel?
>  >
>  > That documentation should be expanded with the full guide for making a rpm.
>
>  Either do
>  > make i686
>  or
>  > make srpm; rpmbuild --rebuild --target i686 *.src.rpm
>
>  -of
>
>  PS: Or any other platform you want.
>
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[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 18:08:53 +0200, Mark wrote:

>  hmm.. make srpm doesn't seem to be valid
>  "make: *** No rule to make target `srpm'.  Stop." 
Run this in your Fedora CVS check-out.

[Toshio Kuratomi]

On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 17:52 +0200, Mark wrote:
>  Thanx for the reply but i'm stuck after step 10.
>  after step 10 it says: "You may then proceed as usual."
>  and what is that? is that make rpm? or rpmbuild in some special location?
>  
>  the notice below step 10 says: "Normally, kernels for Fedora are built
>  using the rpmbuild utility and a specfile. Your results may vary if
>  you use the kernel's built-in make rpm target." but that doesn't
>  answer the question.to me it indicates that both make rpm and rpmbuild
>  are possible.. but than again.. where can i do rpmbuild on the kernel?
>  
>  That documentation should be expanded with the full guide for making a rpm.
>   
It depends on what you want to do.  Your question seemed to be: How do I
get "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" to produce kernel rpms.  The answer
is:
  rpmbuild -ba --target $(uname -m) kernel-2.6.spec

I should have made it clearer in my original reply that the
"--target...." was the only thing you needed to get from that page.

If you want to make modifications to the kernel spec file, then the rest
of that page becomes relevant.

-Toshio

>  2007/7/4, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  > On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 16:28 +0200, Mark wrote:
>  > > oke.. now i'm having a little more complex question also about the kernel.
>  > > when i do: "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" i get this output within
>  > > about a minute:
>  > >
>  > > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.src.rpm
>  > > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/kernel-headers-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.i386.rpm
>  > >
>  > > (this was tested with the F7 kernel source but i also tested it with
>  > > the F8 kernel source. both have the same result as above.. just
>  > > another version)
>  > >
>  > > and more but that's what i want to know. now when running the rpmbuild
>  > > line i expected the full kernel to be compiled.. not just the headers
>  > > and the source rpm. so the question is: how do i compile the kernel
>  > > the fedora way?
>  > >
>  > > or is this the way how it should be done:
>  > > http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora if that's the case
>  > > i will just follow that tutorial. but this (couldn't find it on the
>  > > wiki) is important information to get in the fedora wiki.
>  > >
>  > > And the reason why i want to have this new kernel is mainly because
>  > > iwl (whatever the name was) just the wireless drivers that should be
>  > > alot more stable in this kernel than in 2.6.21
>  > >
>  >
>  > This will help you::
>  > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Kernel.html
>  >
>  > In your specific case you're missing the --target $(uname -m)
>  >
>  > -Toshio
>  >
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>  > fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com
>  > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
>  >
>  >
>

[Mark]

oke, so that's how it should be done.
i'm compiling the kernel at this moment.... should take a while.
now lets hope that wifi support has been made better and that suspend is
working how it should :)

But why isn't rpmbuild compiling all kernel rpm's if you leave out the
--target? than it makes the kernel-headers rpm and a .src.rpm but nothing
more.

2007/7/4, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 17:52 +0200, Mark wrote:
>  > Thanx for the reply but i'm stuck after step 10.
>  > after step 10 it says: "You may then proceed as usual."
>  > and what is that? is that make rpm? or rpmbuild in some special
>  location?
>  >
>  > the notice below step 10 says: "Normally, kernels for Fedora are built
>  > using the rpmbuild utility and a specfile. Your results may vary if
>  > you use the kernel's built-in make rpm target." but that doesn't
>  > answer the question.to me it indicates that both make rpm and rpmbuild
>  > are possible.. but than again.. where can i do rpmbuild on the kernel?
>  >
>  > That documentation should be expanded with the full guide for making a
>  rpm.
>  >
>  It depends on what you want to do.  Your question seemed to be: How do I
>  get "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" to produce kernel rpms.  The answer
>  is:
>    rpmbuild -ba --target $(uname -m) kernel-2.6.spec
>
>  I should have made it clearer in my original reply that the
>  "--target...." was the only thing you needed to get from that page.
>
>  If you want to make modifications to the kernel spec file, then the rest
>  of that page becomes relevant.
>
>  -Toshio
>
>  > 2007/7/4, Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  > > On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 16:28 +0200, Mark wrote:
>  > > > oke.. now i'm having a little more complex question also about the
>  kernel.
>  > > > when i do: "rpmbuild -ba kernel-2.6.spec" i get this output
> within
>  > > > about a minute:
>  > > >
>  > > > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.src.rpm
>  > > > Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/kernel-
>  headers-2.6.21-1.3228.fc7.i386.rpm
>  > > >
>  > > > (this was tested with the F7 kernel source but i also tested it with
>  > > > the F8 kernel source. both have the same result as above.. just
>  > > > another version)
>  > > >
>  > > > and more but that's what i want to know. now when running the
>  rpmbuild
>  > > > line i expected the full kernel to be compiled.. not just the
>  headers
>  > > > and the source rpm. so the question is: how do i compile the kernel
>  > > > the fedora way?
>  > > >
>  > > > or is this the way how it should be done:
>  > > > http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora if that's the
>  case
>  > > > i will just follow that tutorial. but this (couldn't find it on the
>  > > > wiki) is important information to get in the fedora wiki.
>  > > >
>  > > > And the reason why i want to have this new kernel is mainly because
>  > > > iwl (whatever the name was) just the wireless drivers that should be
>  > > > alot more stable in this kernel than in 2.6.21
>  > > >
>  > >
>  > > This will help you::
>  > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Kernel.html
>  > >
>  > > In your specific case you're missing the --target $(uname -m)
>  > >
>  > > -Toshio
>  > >
>  > > --
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>  > > fedora-devel-list(a)redhat.com
>  > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
>  > >
>  > >
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[Till Maas]

On Mi Juli 4 2007, Oliver Falk wrote:

>  it is merged, but under 'extras'. :-) 
It is merged under 'pkgs'!

Regards,
Till

[Oliver Falk]

On 07/04/2007 03:58 PM, Till Maas wrote:
>  On Mi Juli 4 2007, Oliver Falk wrote:
>  
> > it is merged, but under 'extras'. :-)
>  
>  It is merged under 'pkgs'! 
OOps. Did i send the link also with extras!?

-of

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Mer 4 juillet 2007 16:04, Oliver Falk a écrit :
>  On 07/04/2007 03:58 PM, Till Maas wrote:
> > On Mi Juli 4 2007, Oliver Falk wrote:
> >
> >> it is merged, but under 'extras'. :-)
> >
> > It is merged under 'pkgs'!
>
>  OOps. Did i send the link also with extras!? 
pkgs will exist for normal users when it's documented on
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/

Till then "use extras" is the user-friendly answer.

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

[Till Maas]

On Mi Juli 4 2007, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

>  pkgs will exist for normal users when it's documented on
>  http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/ 
I did not know, that this page is still maintaned. I asked about this a long 
time ago, but today I found out, where to report bugs about this and opened 
two tickets:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/246730
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/246728

Regards,
Till

[Till Maas]

On Mi Juli 4 2007, Oliver Falk wrote:
>  On 07/04/2007 03:19 PM, Mark wrote:
>  > Hey,
>  >
>  > i was just about to donwload the latest kernel package but the CVS i
>  > know:
>  > http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=core
>
>    http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=extras
>
>  Better look in extras repo :-) 
Extras in CVS is only an symlink(?) to pkgs, which is the official new CVS 
root:
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/devel/kernel/?root=pkgs

Regards,
Till