Fedora 34 Change proposal: ibus-anthy for default Japanese IME (System-Wide Change)

[Ben Cotton]

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_for_default_Japanese_IME

== Summary ==
The current default Japanese IME(input method engine) is ibus-kkc and
the default is going to change to ibus-anthy to develop Japanese IME
more effectively.


== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:Fujiwara|Takao Fujiwara]]
* Email: fujiwara [at] redhat [dot] com


== Detailed Description ==
Currently some development plans have been pending because of the
delay of [https://github.com/ueno/ibus-kkc ibus-kkc] [1] which is the
default IME for Japanese and I make the default IME to bring back to
[https://github.com/ibus/ibus-anthy ibus-anthy] now. Originally the
default was changed from ibus-anthy to ibus-kkc because the
[https://osdn.net/projects/anthy/ upstream anthy] is no longer
updated. Recently I got the agreement with the original developer of
anthy and forked it to [https://github.com/fujiwarat/ibus-anthy
anthy-unicode] and start to change the default IME again.

I also considered about [https://github.com/google/mozc ibus-mozc] for
the default but the configuration GUI is based on Qt which has the
different theme from GNOME desktop in Fedora.

[1] https://github.com/ibus/ibus/wiki/GSettingsMigration


== Benefit to Fedora ==
Make the effective developments in the Japanese IME and apply the
latest updates in ibus to each IME more effectively because I'm the
maintainer of both ibus and ibus-anthy.


== Scope ==
* Proposal owners:
* Other developers: gnome-desktop3 for default ja_JP

* Release engineering: (a check of an impact with Release Engineering is needed)
* Policies and guidelines: N/A
* Trademark approval: N/A
* Alignment with Objectives:


== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
The default installed package will be changed from ibus-kkc to ibus-anthy.


== How To Test ==
Install Fedora with Japanese and the default IME is ibus-anthy.


== User Experience ==
# The Japanese detabase and some keybindings will be changed
# The setting UI is a little different
# The package size and depended packages are different
# The memory usage is a little different


== Dependencies ==
anthy-unicode and kasumi
# comps has to be updated
# gnome-desktop3 has to be updated


== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: Revert comps and gnome-desktop3
* Contingency deadline: Beta release
* Blocks release? No

== Documentation ==
TBD

-- 
Ben Cotton
He / Him / His
Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream
Red Hat
TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

[Andy Mender]

On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 20:07, Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ibus-anthy_for_default_Japanese_IME
>
>  == Summary ==
>  The current default Japanese IME(input method engine) is ibus-kkc and
>  the default is going to change to ibus-anthy to develop Japanese IME
>  more effectively.
>
>
>  == Owner ==
>  * Name: [[User:Fujiwara|Takao Fujiwara]]
>  * Email: fujiwara [at] redhat [dot] com
>
>
>  == Detailed Description ==
>  Currently some development plans have been pending because of the
>  delay of [https://github.com/ueno/ibus-kkc ibus-kkc] [1] which is the
>  default IME for Japanese and I make the default IME to bring back to
>  [https://github.com/ibus/ibus-anthy ibus-anthy] now. Originally the
>  default was changed from ibus-anthy to ibus-kkc because the
>  [https://osdn.net/projects/anthy/ upstream anthy] is no longer
>  updated. Recently I got the agreement with the original developer of
>  anthy and forked it to [https://github.com/fujiwarat/ibus-anthy
>  anthy-unicode] and start to change the default IME again.
>
>  I also considered about [https://github.com/google/mozc ibus-mozc] for
>  the default but the configuration GUI is based on Qt which has the
>  different theme from GNOME desktop in Fedora.
>
>  [1] https://github.com/ibus/ibus/wiki/GSettingsMigration
>
>
>  == Benefit to Fedora ==
>  Make the effective developments in the Japanese IME and apply the
>  latest updates in ibus to each IME more effectively because I'm the
>  maintainer of both ibus and ibus-anthy.
>
>
>  == Scope ==
>  * Proposal owners:
>  * Other developers: gnome-desktop3 for default ja_JP
>
>  * Release engineering: (a check of an impact with Release Engineering is
>  needed)
>  * Policies and guidelines: N/A
>  * Trademark approval: N/A
>  * Alignment with Objectives:
>
>
>  == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
>  The default installed package will be changed from ibus-kkc to ibus-anthy.
>
>
>  == How To Test ==
>  Install Fedora with Japanese and the default IME is ibus-anthy.
>
>
>  == User Experience ==
>  # The Japanese detabase and some keybindings will be changed
>  # The setting UI is a little different
>  # The package size and depended packages are different
>  # The memory usage is a little different
>
>
>  == Dependencies ==
>  anthy-unicode and kasumi
>  # comps has to be updated
>  # gnome-desktop3 has to be updated
>
>
>  == Contingency Plan ==
>  * Contingency mechanism: Revert comps and gnome-desktop3
>  * Contingency deadline: Beta release
>  * Blocks release? No
>
>  == Documentation ==
>  TBD
>
>  --
>  Ben Cotton
>  He / Him / His
>  Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream
>  Red Hat
>  TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
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As a user of a Japanese IME I would say it's a good move. However, it might
also be worth considering fcitx5. It has been recently (this year) packaged
for Fedora and supports both Japanese (skk) and Chinese (chewing) input
methods currently. It offers a GTK3 and Qt5 GUI.

I used to use ibus-anthy in the past and noticed that input switching
between Japanese and English is a lot smoother with fcitx5 and works very
well regardless of text editor, browser, etc. It even works in a terminal
emulator.

Here's the GitHub page: https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx5
And here's the SKK addon's page: https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx5-skk
If it's important to keep the anthy addon, that's also an option:
https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx5-anthy

Note: I'm a co-maintainer of the fcitx5 packages. The main maintainer is
Qiyu Yan.

~Andy

[Takao Fujiwara]

On 2020/12/01 5:07, Andy Mender-san wrote:
>  If it's important to keep the anthy addon, that's also an
> option: https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx5-anthy
> <https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx5-anthy>
>   
Currently I wish to obsolete anthy in the future and it would be great to migrate for
fcitx5-anthy to use anthy-unicode in Fedora too.
https://github.com/fcitx/fcitx-anthy/issues/12

Fujiwara

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