Introduction for gaming packaging/maintaining

[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Hi guys,
my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years (Fedora
26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and C/C++. But acutally I
prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a
bit Italian and Spanish. 

It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope to work
on a small project soon.
I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.


Regards
Andi

[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Karsten Andreas ArtzSchaal 1335435 Wettenberg
 

    Am Montag, 8. April 2019, 19:32:42 MESZ hat Karsten Andreas Artz
<andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; Folgendes geschrieben:  
 
 Hi guys,
my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years (Fedora
26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and C/C++. But acutally I
prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a
bit Italian and Spanish. 

It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope to work
on a small project soon.
I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.


Regards
Andi

[Benson Muite]

Hi Andi,

Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
The get involved page still needs an update:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
but packaging guidelines are here:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/

most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to 
contribute other than packaging.


Regards,
Benson


On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
>  Hi guys,
>
>  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 
>  years (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java 
>  Script, and C/C++. But acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I 
>  studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and Cath.Theology. Besides 
>  this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a bit 
>  Italian and Spanish.
>
>  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. 
>  Therefore I hope to work on a small project soon.
>  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
>
>
>  Regards
>
>  Andi
>
>
>
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[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Hi Benson,
thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
Regards
Andi 
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt; wrote:

 
Hi Andi,
 Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
 https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
 The get involved page still needs an update:
 https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
 but packaging guidelines are here:
 https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
 
most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to contribute other
than packaging.
 

 
 Regards,
 Benson 

 
 On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
  
 
           Hi guys, 
  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
(Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
bit Italian and Spanish. 
  
  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope to
work on a small  project soon.
  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
  
  
  Regards 
  Andi
          
  
   
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[Dan Čermák]

Hi Andi,

welcome to the pack!

You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
sponsored).

In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).

In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/


Cheers,

Dan

Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi Benson,
>  thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
>  I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
>  Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
>  Regards
>  Andi 
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>  On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt;
> wrote:
>
>   
>  Hi Andi,
>   Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
>   https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
>   The get involved page still needs an update:
>   https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
>   but packaging guidelines are here:
>   https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
>   
>  most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to contribute other
> than packaging.
>   
>
>   
>   Regards,
>   Benson 
>
>   
>   On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
>    
>   
>             Hi guys, 
>    my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
> (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
> acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
> Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
> bit Italian and Spanish. 
>    
>    It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope to
> work on a small  project soon.
>    I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
>    
>    
>    Regards 
>    Andi
>            
>    
>     
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[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Hi Dan, 
thx for welcoming me to the pack! 
I’ve skimmed through the games. I have different games in favor: Raildroad Tycoon, Pizza
Tycoon and escape from Monkey Island. 
What are the first steps to start? 
Thx in forward
Cheers 
Andi 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, 10:48 AM, Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
wrote:

Hi Andi,

welcome to the pack!

You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
sponsored).

In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).

In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/


Cheers,

Dan

Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi Benson,
>  thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
>  I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
>  Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
>  Regards
>  Andi 
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>  On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt;
> wrote:
>
>   
>  Hi Andi,
>   Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
>   https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
>   The get involved page still needs an update:
>   https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
>   but packaging guidelines are here:
>   https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
>   
>  most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to contribute other
> than packaging.
>   
>
>   
>   Regards,
>   Benson 
>
>   
>   On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
>   
>   
>             Hi guys, 
>   my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
> (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
> acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
> Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
> bit Italian and Spanish. 
>   
>   It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope to
> work on a small  project soon.
>   I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
>   
>   
>   Regards 
>   Andi
>           
>   
>     
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[Dan Čermák]

Hi Andi,

the games you listed are proprietary and can thus not be shipped with
Fedora.

What you could do, is to try to improve the out of the box experience
when trying to install and play these games. But that is quite an
undertaking as that will require diving into the guts of wine.

My recommendation would be: find something in Fedora that annoys you or
that you think it lacks and try to work on that.


Cheers,

Dan

Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi Dan, 
>  thx for welcoming me to the pack! 
>  I’ve skimmed through the games. I have different games in favor: Raildroad Tycoon, Pizza
> Tycoon and escape from Monkey Island. 
>  What are the first steps to start? 
>  Thx in forward
>  Cheers 
>  Andi 
>
>
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>  On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, 10:48 AM, Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Andi,
>
>  welcome to the pack!
>
>  You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
>  you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
>  sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
>  sponsored).
>
>  In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
>  open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
>  Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
>  be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).
>
>  In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
>  this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Dan
>
>  Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
>
> > Hi Benson,
> > thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
> > I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
> > Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
> > Regards
> > Andi 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt;
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Hi Andi,
> >  Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
> >  The get involved page still needs an update:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
> >  but packaging guidelines are here:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
> >  
> > most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to contribute
> other than packaging.
> >  
> >
> >  
> >  Regards,
> >  Benson 
> >
> >  
> >  On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
> >  
> >  
> >            Hi guys, 
> >  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
> (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
> acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
> Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
> bit Italian and Spanish. 
> >  
> >  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope
> to work on a small  project soon.
> >  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
> >  
> >  
> >  Regards 
> >  Andi
> >          
> >  
> >    
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[Damian Ivanov]

Yet, if they are free to be redestributed a flatpak on flathub would be
great?

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019, 11:31 Dan Čermák, <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi Andi,
>
>  the games you listed are proprietary and can thus not be shipped with
>  Fedora.
>
>  What you could do, is to try to improve the out of the box experience
>  when trying to install and play these games. But that is quite an
>  undertaking as that will require diving into the guts of wine.
>
>  My recommendation would be: find something in Fedora that annoys you or
>  that you think it lacks and try to work on that.
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Dan
>
>  Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
>
>  > Hi Dan,
>  > thx for welcoming me to the pack!
>  > I’ve skimmed through the games. I have different games in favor:
>  Raildroad Tycoon, Pizza Tycoon and escape from Monkey Island.
>  > What are the first steps to start?
>  > Thx in forward
>  > Cheers
>  > Andi
>  >
>  >
>  > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, 10:48 AM, Dan Čermák <
>  dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi Andi,
>  >
>  > welcome to the pack!
>  >
>  > You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
>  > you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
>  > sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
>  > sponsored).
>  >
>  > In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
>  > open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
>  > Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
>  > be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).
>  >
>  > In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
>  > this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
>  >
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  > Dan
>  >
>  > Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
>  >
>  >> Hi Benson,
>  >> thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links.
>  >> I’ve read through them and skimmed them.
>  >> Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
>  >> Regards
>  >> Andi
>  >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <
>  benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt; wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Hi Andi,
>  >>  Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
>  >>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
>  >>  The get involved page still needs an update:
>  >>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
>  >>  but packaging guidelines are here:
>  >>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
>  >>
>  >> most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways
>  to contribute other than packaging.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  Regards,
>  >>  Benson
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>            Hi guys,
>  >>  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2
>  years (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script,
>  and  C/C++. But acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of
>  Arts History, Archaeology and Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a
>  lot of languages: German, English, French, a  bit Italian and Spanish.
>  >>
>  >>  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer.
>  Therefore I hope to work on a small  project soon.
>  >>  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>  Regards
>  >>  Andi
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Yeah that would be great too. 


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 11:08 AM, Damian Ivanov <damianatorrpm(a)gmail.com&gt;
wrote:

Yet, if they are free to be redestributed a flatpak on flathub would be great?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019, 11:31 Dan Čermák, <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt; wrote:

Hi Andi,

the games you listed are proprietary and can thus not be shipped with
Fedora.

What you could do, is to try to improve the out of the box experience
when trying to install and play these games. But that is quite an
undertaking as that will require diving into the guts of wine.

My recommendation would be: find something in Fedora that annoys you or
that you think it lacks and try to work on that.


Cheers,

Dan

Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi Dan, 
>  thx for welcoming me to the pack! 
>  I’ve skimmed through the games. I have different games in favor: Raildroad Tycoon, Pizza
> Tycoon and escape from Monkey Island. 
>  What are the first steps to start? 
>  Thx in forward
>  Cheers 
>  Andi 
>
>
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>  On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, 10:48 AM, Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Andi,
>
>  welcome to the pack!
>
>  You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
>  you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
>  sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
>  sponsored).
>
>  In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
>  open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
>  Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
>  be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).
>
>  In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
>  this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Dan
>
>  Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
>
> > Hi Benson,
> > thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
> > I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
> > Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
> > Regards
> > Andi 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt;
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Hi Andi,
> >  Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
> >  The get involved page still needs an update:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
> >  but packaging guidelines are here:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
> >  
> > most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to contribute
> other than packaging.
> >  
> >
> >  
> >  Regards,
> >  Benson 
> >
> >  
> >  On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
> >  
> >  
> >            Hi guys, 
> >  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
> (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
> acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
> Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
> bit Italian and Spanish. 
> >  
> >  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope
> to work on a small  project soon.
> >  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
> >  
> >  
> >  Regards 
> >  Andi
> >          
> >  
> >    
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[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Hi Dan,
I’ve checked again and I guess the clones should be the one which can be included on
Fedora, can’t they? 
Let me list my favors: Pizza Buisness, FreeRails, Jagged Alliance 2 - Steaciatella. 
This should be not proprietary, shouldn’t they? 
Thx in forward!
Cheers 
Andi

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 10:30 AM, Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
wrote:

Hi Andi,

the games you listed are proprietary and can thus not be shipped with
Fedora.

What you could do, is to try to improve the out of the box experience
when trying to install and play these games. But that is quite an
undertaking as that will require diving into the guts of wine.

My recommendation would be: find something in Fedora that annoys you or
that you think it lacks and try to work on that.


Cheers,

Dan

Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi Dan, 
>  thx for welcoming me to the pack! 
>  I’ve skimmed through the games. I have different games in favor: Raildroad Tycoon, Pizza
> Tycoon and escape from Monkey Island. 
>  What are the first steps to start? 
>  Thx in forward
>  Cheers 
>  Andi 
>
>
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>  On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, 10:48 AM, Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Andi,
>
>  welcome to the pack!
>
>  You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
>  you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
>  sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
>  sponsored).
>
>  In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
>  open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
>  Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
>  be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).
>
>  In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
>  this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Dan
>
>  Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
>
> > Hi Benson,
> > thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
> > I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
> > Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
> > Regards
> > Andi 
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt;
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Hi Andi,
> >  Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
> >  The get involved page still needs an update:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
> >  but packaging guidelines are here:
> >  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
> >  
> > most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to contribute
> other than packaging.
> >  
> >
> >  
> >  Regards,
> >  Benson 
> >
> >  
> >  On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
> >  
> >  
> >            Hi guys, 
> >  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
> (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
> acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
> Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
> bit Italian and Spanish. 
> >  
> >  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope
> to work on a small  project soon.
> >  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
> >  
> >  
> >  Regards 
> >  Andi
> >          
> >  
> >    
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[Dan Čermák]

Hi Andi,

clones are usually ok, as long as they are clean-room reimplementations
and do not redistribute the original games' assets, which most of them
according to my knowledge don't.

For the other games a flatpak would be probably the best fit, as
flatpaks can contain more or less arbitrary dependencies and also be
closed source.


Cheers,

Dan

Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:

>  Hi Dan,
>  I’ve checked again and I guess the clones should be the one which can be included on
> Fedora, can’t they? 
>  Let me list my favors: Pizza Buisness, FreeRails, Jagged Alliance 2 - Steaciatella. 
>  This should be not proprietary, shouldn’t they? 
>  Thx in forward!
>  Cheers 
>  Andi
>
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
>  On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, 10:30 AM, Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Andi,
>
>  the games you listed are proprietary and can thus not be shipped with
>  Fedora.
>
>  What you could do, is to try to improve the out of the box experience
>  when trying to install and play these games. But that is quite an
>  undertaking as that will require diving into the guts of wine.
>
>  My recommendation would be: find something in Fedora that annoys you or
>  that you think it lacks and try to work on that.
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Dan
>
>  Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
>
> > Hi Dan, 
> > thx for welcoming me to the pack! 
> > I’ve skimmed through the games. I have different games in favor: Raildroad Tycoon,
> Pizza Tycoon and escape from Monkey Island. 
> > What are the first steps to start? 
> > Thx in forward
> > Cheers 
> > Andi 
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, 10:48 AM, Dan Čermák
> <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > Hi Andi,
> >
> > welcome to the pack!
> >
> > You can try to review some packages or submit your own package, whatever
> > you feel like doing (if you submit a package, you'll need to get
> > sponsored though and reviewing packages is a good way how to get
> > sponsored).
> >
> > In case you want to package some games, there's a pretty long list of
> > open source game clones: https://osgameclones.com/
> > Most of these are afaik not in Fedora (yet) and some smaller ones could
> > be a nice start (although you should watch out for licensing issues).
> >
> > In case you are looking for other ways to contribute, there's always
> > this site: https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt; writes:
> >
> >> Hi Benson,
> >> thx for welcoming me on Fedora and thx for providing the links. 
> >> I’ve read through them and skimmed them. 
> >> Should I start reviewing packages or do you have another idea?
> >> Regards
> >> Andi 
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >> On Monday, April 8, 2019, 9:35 PM, Benson Muite
> <benson_muite(a)emailplus.org&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >>  
> >> Hi Andi,
> >>  Welcome to Fedora. Some general information is at:
> >>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/
> >>  The get involved page still needs an update:
> >>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
> >>  but packaging guidelines are here:
> >>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
> >>  
> >> most people start by reviewing packages - though there are other ways to
> contribute other than packaging.
> >>  
> >>
> >>  
> >>  Regards,
> >>  Benson 
> >>
> >>  
> >>  On 4/8/19 7:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
> >>  
> >>  
> >>            Hi guys, 
> >>  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2
> years (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and  C/C++. But
> acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
> Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a 
> bit Italian and Spanish. 
> >>  
> >>  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I
> hope to work on a small  project soon.
> >>  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
> >>  
> >>  
> >>  Regards 
> >>  Andi
> >>          
> >>  
> >>    
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[Justin W. Flory]

On 4/8/19 1:32 PM, Karsten Andreas Artz wrote:
>  Hi guys,
>  
>  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2
>  years (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java
>  Script, and C/C++. But acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I
>  studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and Cath.Theology. Besides
>  this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a bit
>  Italian and Spanish.
>  
>  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer.
>  Therefore I hope to work on a small project soon.
>  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
>   
Hi Andi, welcome to the mailing lists. :)

The Games SIG is a good place to find more information about what help
is needed to improve the gaming experience on Fedora. In the past couple
months, there were a few discussions from people needing help on a few
small things. Hopefully someone more informed than me can offer some
pointers since I am not a games packager.

Happy to have you here in the community!

-- 
Cheers,
Justin W. Flory
jflory7(a)gmail.com

[Kamil Paral]

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:34 PM Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi guys,
>
>  my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years
>  (Fedora 26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and
>  C/C++. But acutally I prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts
>  History, Archaeology and Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of
>  languages: German, English, French, a bit Italian and Spanish.
>
>  It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer.
>  Therefore I hope to work on a small project soon.
>  I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.
>  
Hi Andi,

only opensource software can be part of Fedora, and there are not that many
opensource games out there (which are not already packaged for Fedora), so
it might be a bit difficult to find something suitable and interesting (but
some of the OS clones might be a good idea). Additionally regarding games
packaging, you can consider making flatpaks instead of RPMs and submitting
them to Flathub [1]. Flathub can not only contain opensource games, but
also freeware and free-to-play games (let's talk about Linux-native games
at the moment, incorporating Wine into them would be another level of
difficulty). For example, I'd personally love to see The Dark Mod [2]
available at Flathub.

In Fedora you can also participate on packaging and maintaining
game-related software, like emulators and launchers. Wine, Lutris and
PLayOnLinux are the most visible ones, but then there are also lots of
retro emulators, many of them not even in Fedora yet, I'd guess. So it
depends on your experience and interests (both gaming and packaging). You
could even participate in e.g. Lutris community in creating and maintaining
scripts to allow easy installation of Windows and other platforms' games on
Linux.

The Gaming SIG [3] might provide a better advice, this is just what I know.

[1] https://flathub.org
[2] http://www.thedarkmod.com
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games

[Karsten Andreas Artz]

Hi Kamil,
personally I'd prefer containing the games on Flatpak to be more flexible and it can
be provided for a hugh user base.
I hope the games I've suggested  now are mostly clones. Thus they might be included
for Fedora.  The Dark Mod sounds an interesting game!  I've made a notice for your
wish:) 

Cheers
 Andi



    Am Mittwoch, 10. April 2019, 13:28:24 MESZ hat Kamil Paral <kparal(a)redhat.com&gt;
Folgendes geschrieben:  
 
 On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:34 PM Karsten Andreas Artz <andreas.artz(a)yahoo.com&gt;
wrote:

Hi guys,
my name is Andi, 29 and I'm from Germany.  I'm using Fedora almost 2 years (Fedora
26). My programming skills are on Python, Java/Java Script, and C/C++. But acutally I
prefer mostly Python hacking. I studied B.A. of Arts History, Archaeology and
Cath.Theology. Besides this, I can speak a lot of languages: German, English, French, a
bit Italian and Spanish. 

It would be glad starting contributing on Fedora as a maintainer. Therefore I hope to work
on a small project soon.
I'm interested in games packaging, but I don't know where to start.


Hi Andi,
only opensource software can be part of Fedora, and there are not that many opensource
games out there (which are not already packaged for Fedora), so it might be a bit
difficult to find something suitable and interesting (but some of the OS clones might be a
good idea). Additionally regarding games packaging, you can consider making flatpaks
instead of RPMs and submitting them to Flathub [1]. Flathub can not only contain
opensource games, but also freeware and free-to-play games (let's talk about
Linux-native games at the moment, incorporating Wine into them would be another level of
difficulty). For example, I'd personally love to see The Dark Mod [2] available at
Flathub.
In Fedora you can also participate on packaging and maintaining game-related software,
like emulators and launchers. Wine, Lutris and PLayOnLinux are the most visible ones, but
then there are also lots of retro emulators, many of them not even in Fedora yet, I'd
guess. So it depends on your experience and interests (both gaming and packaging). You
could even participate in e.g. Lutris community in creating and maintaining scripts to
allow easy installation of Windows and other platforms' games on Linux.
The Gaming SIG [3] might provide a better advice, this is just what I know.

[1] https://flathub.org
[2] http://www.thedarkmod.com[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games
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