Minitube - youtube for your desktop, still a little early in development

[Adam Miller]

Hey all,
    I packaged up this app I stumbled upon called minitube
(http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube) but it seems a bit unstable and I
don't really want to toss it up to a package review until its stable
enough to be shipped but I wanted to mention it to see if anyone might
find a use for it, would help testing and submitting bugs upstream,
etc.

    Random side note, a thought that ran across my mind during this
is: "Do we have some sort of expectation of stability of software in
the repositories?" is there some sort of a policy/guideline or is it
more of a "judgement call" placed on the packager?

Spec: http://maxamillion.fedorapeople.org/minitube.spec
SRPM: http://maxamillion.fedorapeople.org/minitube-0.5-2.fc11.src.rpm

-Adam

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[Matthew Garrett]

On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:38:49AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote:
>  Hey all,
>      I packaged up this app I stumbled upon called minitube
>  (http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube) but it seems a bit unstable and I
>  don't really want to toss it up to a package review until its stable
>  enough to be shipped but I wanted to mention it to see if anyone might
>  find a use for it, would help testing and submitting bugs upstream,
>  etc. 
Does it have any functionality that the totem youtube plugin doesn't?

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[Adam Miller]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Garrett<mjg(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>  Does it have any functionality that the totem youtube plugin
> doesn't?
>  
<snip>

Honestly not sure, wasn't aware totem had a youtube plugin. I'll have
to check it out.

-Adam

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[Gregory Maxwell]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Adam Miller<maxamillion(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hey all,
>     I packaged up this app I stumbled upon called minitube
>  (http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube) but it seems a bit unstable and I
>  don't really want to toss it up to a package review until its stable
>  enough to be shipped but I wanted to mention it to see if anyone might
>  find a use for it, would help testing and submitting bugs upstream,
>  etc. 
[snip]

What would be the point of packaging something which can not operate
without codecs that fedora can not and should not ship?

[Peter Gordon]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 20:41 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>  What would be the point of packaging something which can not operate
>  without codecs that fedora can not and should not ship? 
I don't think that's a valid point here. For one, Fedora already has the
Totem YouTube plugin packaged, which functions similarly...
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[Michel Alexandre Salim]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Gregory Maxwell<gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  What would be the point of packaging something which can not operate
>  without codecs that fedora can not and should not ship?
>  
That was the rationale for vagalume ending up in rpmfusion-free: the
code itself is fully free, but it's not usable without some
patent-encumbered codecs.

By that rationale, though, shouldn't totem-youtube end up in rpmfusion-free too?

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[Peter Gordon]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 23:25 -0400, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
>  That was the rationale for vagalume ending up in rpmfusion-free: the
>  code itself is fully free, but it's not usable without some
>  patent-encumbered codecs.
>  
>  By that rationale, though, shouldn't totem-youtube end up in rpmfusion-free too?
My understanding is that Totem (and its YouTube plugin) simply call out
to Gstreamer, and the Gstreamer libraries (through PackageKit's
automatic-installer plugin, if necessary) are responsible for the
decoding. So, the Totem plugin itself is not patent-encumbered by any
means.

Then again, it is also not very usable without those codecs, either.
Maybe it should be moved to the RPMFusion Free repo?
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