Re: How to move package from extras to core ?

[Nils Philippsen]

On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 21:02 -0800, Ankit Patel wrote:

>  I think almost 90% of people are satisfied with the default
>  installation of Fedora core. Nobody wants to try new stuffs. So, it's
>  good to provide them directly, then only they realize the importance
>  of the application. That's the only reason i want it to move from
>  extras to core. 
I'd really like to abuse people of the notion that Extras were somehow
inferior to Core. I think this stems from that Extras packages are only
installable once the system is running -- if my memory doesn't betray
me, getting Extras installable directly from anaconda has been
discussed, have these discussions born any fruit?

Nils
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How to move package from extras to core ?

[David Malcolm]

On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 20:23 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote:
>  On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 21:02 -0800, Ankit Patel wrote:
>  
>  > I think almost 90% of people are satisfied with the default
>  > installation of Fedora core. Nobody wants to try new stuffs. So, it's
>  > good to provide them directly, then only they realize the importance
>  > of the application. That's the only reason i want it to move from
>  > extras to core.
>  
>  I'd really like to abuse people of the notion that Extras were somehow
>  inferior to Core. I think this stems from that Extras packages are only
>  installable once the system is running -- if my memory doesn't betray
>  me, getting Extras installable directly from anaconda has been
>  discussed, have these discussions born any fruit? 

Errr....  being overly pedantic here, perhaps, but don't you mean
"disabuse", rather than "abuse" here?

Totally agree with your point though

Dave

How to move package from extras to core ?

[Nils Philippsen]

On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 14:28 -0500, David Malcolm wrote:
>  On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 20:23 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote:
>  > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 21:02 -0800, Ankit Patel wrote:
>  > 
>  > > I think almost 90% of people are satisfied with the default
>  > > installation of Fedora core. Nobody wants to try new stuffs. So, it's
>  > > good to provide them directly, then only they realize the importance
>  > > of the application. That's the only reason i want it to move from
>  > > extras to core.
>  > 
>  > I'd really like to abuse people of the notion that Extras were somehow
>  > inferior to Core. I think this stems from that Extras packages are only
>  > installable once the system is running -- if my memory doesn't betray
>  > me, getting Extras installable directly from anaconda has been
>  > discussed, have these discussions born any fruit?
>  
>  
>  Errr....  being overly pedantic here, perhaps, but don't you mean
>  "disabuse", rather than "abuse" here? 
Of course I mean disabuse. Thanks for pointing this out (really),
otherwise I'd be abusing people when I don't mean to ;-).

Nils
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How to move package from extras to core ?

[Jesse Keating]

On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 20:23 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote:
>  
>  I'd really like to abuse people of the notion that Extras were somehow
>  inferior to Core. I think this stems from that Extras packages are only
>  installable once the system is running -- if my memory doesn't betray
>  me, getting Extras installable directly from anaconda has been
>  discussed, have these discussions born any fruit? 
The first step in this process is pretty much done, that is using yum in
anaconda instead of rpm.  For FC5 I do believe we are not going to allow
plugging into external repos for package installations at install time,
however that is I believe an expressed goal for FC6.  I'm sure somebody
will correct me if I'm wrong (:

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How to move package from extras to core ?

[Rahul Sundaram]

Nils Philippsen wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 21:02 -0800, Ankit Patel wrote:
>
>   
>
> >I think almost 90% of people are satisfied with the default
> >installation of Fedora core. Nobody wants to try new stuffs. 
> > 
This is a interesting claim. How do we know which of the packages are 
being used in extras or core repository?. It would be curious to know 
the details. Even the download numbers from main would provide a good 
idea though its probably skewed by yum choosing a random mirror.

regards
Rahul

How to move package from extras to core ?

[Andrew Grover]

On 11/18/05, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  >>I think almost 90% of people are satisfied with the default
>  >>installation of Fedora core. Nobody wants to try new stuffs.
>  >>
>  This is a interesting claim. How do we know which of the packages are
>  being used in extras or core repository?. It would be curious to know
>  the details. Even the download numbers from main would provide a good
>  idea though its probably skewed by yum choosing a random mirror.
>  
Well Debian has popcon. http://popcon.debian.org/

If you really wanted to know, something like this would probably be the way
to do it. Or you could just look at Debian's results, being aware that
Fedora will not be exactly identical.

-- Andy

How to move package from extras to core ?

[Ankit Patel]

So, finally isn't there any possibility of moving system-config-control from Extras to
Core ?
 

		
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