Since Jason pointed me to git-seed-latest.tar.xz I've been peeking at all the packages included in that monster. And, as is to be expected with a massive number of packages, I ran into some corner cases.
This lead to two trivial pull request[1][2].
Both packages are unmaintained and their Bugzilla assignee is extras-orphan@fedoraproject.org. This suggests these pull request might be heading for /dev/null. If that's correct, who should I contact to ensure these packages are finally put out of their misery?
Paul Bolle
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/tesla-pom/pull-request/1 [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/Charliecloud/pull-request/1
On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 2:10 PM Paul Bolle via devel devel@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Since Jason pointed me to git-seed-latest.tar.xz I've been peeking at all the packages included in that monster. And, as is to be expected with a massive number of packages, I ran into some corner cases.
This lead to two trivial pull request[1][2].
Both packages are unmaintained and their Bugzilla assignee is extras-orphan@fedoraproject.org. This suggests these pull request might be heading for /dev/null. If that's correct, who should I contact to ensure these packages are finally put out of their misery?
Paul Bolle
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/tesla-pom/pull-request/1 [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/Charliecloud/pull-request/1
You don't need to contact anybody. Orphaned packages are retired after 6 weeks if nobody adopts them: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Orphaning_P...
Jerry James schreef op do 24-09-2026 om 14:14 [-0600]:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 2:10 PM Paul Bolle via devel
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/tesla-pom/pull-request/1 [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/Charliecloud/pull-request/1
You don't need to contact anybody. Orphaned packages are retired after 6 weeks if nobody adopts them: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Orphaning_P...
Please note that [1] was retired 11 years ago, but then added a package "dead.pagkage". As far as I know no packages have been shipped since then so it seems to have retired successfully. That pull request is a trivial clean-up to ensure it gets noted by scripts looking for "dead.package".
As for [2] it's unclear to me, now, whether it was orphaned just over six weeks ago or already in 2018. But the funny thing is it's been rebuilt since Fedora 32 without ever having a package included in anything. So, something looked off to me. How could that have happened?
Paul Bolle
As for [2] [...] it's been rebuilt since Fedora 32 without ever having a package included in anything.
It has "rebuilt" commits in dist-git, but no builds in koji. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=29775
Still, yeah, looks like something went wrong there and it wasn't retired properly.
Artur FI
Dne 24. 09. 26 v 10:50 odp. Paul Bolle via devel napsal(a):
Jerry James schreef op do 24-09-2026 om 14:14 [-0600]:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 2:10 PM Paul Bolle via devel
[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/tesla-pom/pull-request/1 [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/Charliecloud/pull-request/1
You don't need to contact anybody. Orphaned packages are retired after 6 weeks if nobody adopts them: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Orphaning_P...
Please note that [1] was retired 11 years ago, but then added a package "dead.pagkage". As far as I know no packages have been shipped since then so it seems to have retired successfully. That pull request is a trivial clean-up to ensure it gets noted by scripts looking for "dead.package".
Any proven packager can merge it. I merged this one.
But you are right - no one monitors it. You have to raise an issue about it. The best place are relengs.
As for [2] it's unclear to me, now, whether it was orphaned just over six weeks ago or already in 2018. But the funny thing is it's been rebuilt since Fedora 32 without ever having a package included in anything. So, something looked off to me. How could that have happened?
I am not going to merge this one. As I believe it may require some additional work beside this PR.
Please open an issue here https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/tickets
Miroslav Suchý schreef op vr 25-09-2026 om 14:25 [+0200]:
Please open an issue here https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/tickets
See https://forge.fedoraproject.org/releng/tickets/issues/13538
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