Help needed with matrix-synapse

[Kai A. Hiller]

Hello,

I am currently unable to provide the amount of work required for fully maintaining matrix-synapse. Could somebody please help with getting Synapse’s latest version to build on F44 and below?

Thank you
Kai

[Gwyn Ciesla]

I'll take a look.

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On Monday, May 18th, 2026 at 5:04 AM, Kai A. Hiller  wrote:
> Hello,
> I am currently unable to provide the amount of work required for fully maintaining matrix-synapse. Could somebody please help with getting Synapse’s latest version to build on F44 and below?
> Thank you
> Kai
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[Kevin Fenzi]

On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 05:20:41PM +0000, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote:
> I'll take a look.

I'm happy to help too, but the last time I looked it was not at all
easy. There's a lot of python/rust interaction and upstream aggressively
pinning to specific versions (and needing them)... ;(

kevin

[Fabio Valentini]

On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 8:01 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 05:20:41PM +0000, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote:
> > I'll take a look.
>
> I'm happy to help too, but the last time I looked it was not at all
> easy. There's a lot of python/rust interaction and upstream aggressively
> pinning to specific versions (and needing them)... ;(

If there's anything I can do to help with the Rust dependencies, let me know.
All of matrix-synapse's Rust dependencies (that are already in Fedora)
should be in good shape,
but I don't know if there's any missing updates or missing new dependencies.

Fabio

[Maxwell G]

On 5/19/26 1:01 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 05:20:41PM +0000, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote:
> > I'll take a look.
>
> I'm happy to help too, but the last time I looked it was not at all
> easy. There's a lot of python/rust interaction and upstream aggressively
> pinning to specific versions (and needing them)... ;(

We do have tooling now in the pyproject macros to make it easier to 
relax overly aggressive upstream dependency constraints, but yeah, the 
dep pinning and python + rust combination definitely does complicate things.

I contributed to this package as part of the Pydantic v2 Change I worked 
on, and the upstream was pretty friendly, so maybe they'd be willing to 
accept changes to make this easier to package, dependency pinning less 
aggressive, etc.

[Gwyn Ciesla]

This is the current batch of pins causing failures after I refactored the pyo3 patch:

DEBUG util.py:461:  Problem 1: nothing provides requested (crate(pyo3-log/default) >= 0.13.3 with crate(pyo3-log/default) < 0.14.0~)
DEBUG util.py:461:   Problem 2: nothing provides requested (crate(pythonize/arbitrary_precision) >= 0.28.0 with crate(pythonize/arbitrary_precision) < 0.29.0~)
DEBUG util.py:461:   Problem 3: nothing provides requested (crate(pythonize/default) >= 0.28.0 with crate(pythonize/default) < 0.29.0~)

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On Tuesday, May 19th, 2026 at 1:07 PM, Maxwell G  wrote:
> On 5/19/26 1:01 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 05:20:41PM +0000, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote:
> > > I'll take a look.
> >
> > I'm happy to help too, but the last time I looked it was not at all
> > easy. There's a lot of python/rust interaction and upstream aggressively
> > pinning to specific versions (and needing them)... ;(
>
> We do have tooling now in the pyproject macros to make it easier to
> relax overly aggressive upstream dependency constraints, but yeah, the
> dep pinning and python + rust combination definitely does complicate things.
> I contributed to this package as part of the Pydantic v2 Change I worked
> on, and the upstream was pretty friendly, so maybe they'd be willing to
> accept changes to make this easier to package, dependency pinning less
> aggressive, etc.
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I just submitted PRs to update both "pyo3-log" and "pythonize" to their 
latest versions.

"pyo3-log" requires only a patch version update.

"pythonize" was a leaf package (no other package depends on it).

Am 19.05.26 um 8:26 PM schrieb Gwyn Ciesla via devel:
> This is the current batch of pins causing failures after I refactored the pyo3 patch:
>
> DEBUG util.py:461:  Problem 1: nothing provides requested (crate(pyo3-log/default) >= 0.13.3 with crate(pyo3-log/default) < 0.14.0~)
> DEBUG util.py:461:   Problem 2: nothing provides requested (crate(pythonize/arbitrary_precision) >= 0.28.0 with crate(pythonize/arbitrary_precision) < 0.29.0~)
> DEBUG util.py:461:   Problem 3: nothing provides requested (crate(pythonize/default) >= 0.28.0 with crate(pythonize/default) < 0.29.0~)
>
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> Gwyn Ciesla
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>
> in your fear, seek only peace
> in your fear, seek only love
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> On Tuesday, May 19th, 2026 at 1:07 PM, Maxwell G  wrote:
> > On 5/19/26 1:01 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 05:20:41PM +0000, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote:
> > > > I'll take a look.
> > >
> > > I'm happy to help too, but the last time I looked it was not at all
> > > easy. There's a lot of python/rust interaction and upstream aggressively
> > > pinning to specific versions (and needing them)... ;(
> >
> > We do have tooling now in the pyproject macros to make it easier to
> > relax overly aggressive upstream dependency constraints, but yeah, the
> > dep pinning and python + rust combination definitely does complicate things.
> >
> > I contributed to this package as part of the Pydantic v2 Change I worked
> > on, and the upstream was pretty friendly, so maybe they'd be willing to
> > accept changes to make this easier to package, dependency pinning less
> > aggressive, etc.
> > --
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