Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC

[John (J5) Palmieri]

----- "Ben Boeckel" <MathStuf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

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>  Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
>  
>  > On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
>  >> 2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  >>> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't 
>  seem to work with
>  >>> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens.  Works 
>  in firefox.
>  >> 
>  >> Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
>  > 
>  > Hmm. How to put this nicely...
>  > 
>  > Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else.
>  > 
>  > If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror 
>  doesn't
>  > properly support javascript, specifically, jquery.
>  > 
>  > See:
>  > http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
>  > http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725
>  > http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility
>  > 
>  > ~spot
>  > 
>  
>  Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says that 
>  Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are:
>  
>  31. core module: append(String|Element|Array<Element>|jQuery)
>      7. Check for appending text with spaces
>  137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) - simple 
>  with xml
>      3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run
>  197. fx module: Chain hide show
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  198. fx module: Chain show hide
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  199. fx module: Chain toggle in
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  200. fx module: Chain toggle out
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out
>      5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur: 
>  hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
>  
>  The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98), the 
>  last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff is 
>  used to load/show the panels and such in the work area (pardon 
>  the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain stuff 
>  is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are 
>  things that the test page doesn't test for).
>  
>  - --Ben
>  
>  [1] http://jquery.com/test 
I also hit resource limits when using regexp.  That being said if there are easy ways to
debug in Konq I am willing to take a look at issues in my own code once the JQuery tests
are passed.  If the devs want to make FComm a sort of test site for AJAX, I am willing to
work with them.

--
John (J5) Palmieri
Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.

Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC

[Ben Boeckel]

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John Palmieri wrote:

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>  ----- "Ben Boeckel" <MathStuf(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
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> > Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> > 
> > > On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote:
> > >> 2009/7/29 Neal Becker <ndbecker2(a)gmail.com&gt;:
> > >>> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community  
doesn't
> > seem to work with
> > >>> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens.  
Works
> > in firefox.
> > >> 
> > >> Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98
> > > 
> > > Hmm. How to put this nicely...
> > > 
> > > Konqueror is a terrible web browser. Use something else.
> > > 
> > > If you want a more detailed answer, it is that konqueror
> > doesn't
> > > properly support javascript, specifically, jquery.
> > > 
> > > See:
> > > http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4362
> > > http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/4725
> > > http://docs.jquery.com/Browser_Compatibility
> > > 
> > > ~spot
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually, the only things that the jQuery test page[1] says  
that
> > Konqueror (4.2.4) is failing at are:
> > 
> > 31. core module: append(String|Element|Array<Element>|jQuery)
> >     7. Check for appending text with spaces
> > 137. ajax module: jQuery.post(String, Hash, Function) -  
simple
> > with xml
> >     3. Expected 4 assertions, but 2 were run
> > 197. fx module: Chain hide show
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 198. fx module: Chain show hide
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 199. fx module: Chain toggle in
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 200. fx module: Chain toggle out
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 201. fx module: Chain slideUp slideDown
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 202. fx module: Chain slideDown slideUp
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 203. fx module: Chain slideToggle in
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 204. fx module: Chain slideToggle out
> >     5. Make sure that overflow is reset (Old: visible Cur:
> > hidden) expected: hidden actual: visible
> > 
> > The first two seem like bugs (137 looks fixed as of 4.2.98),  
the
> > last bunch like not-implemented-yet. I assume the Chain stuff 
is
> > used to load/show the panels and such in the work area 
(pardon
> > the ignorance of any official jargon). So once the Chain 
stuff
> > is implemented, I imagine Konq should work (unless there are
> > things that the test page doesn't test for).
> > 
> > - --Ben
> > 
> > [1] http://jquery.com/test
>  
>  I also hit resource limits when using regexp.  That being said  
if there are easy
ways to debug in
>  Konq I am willing to take a look at issues in my own code once 
the JQuery tests are passed.  If
>  the devs want to make FComm a sort of test site for AJAX, I am 
willing to work with them.
>  
>  --
>  John (J5) Palmieri
>  Software Engineer
>  Red Hat, Inc.
>   
Thanks. Unfortunately I don't know of any way to debug in 
Konqueror (I don't usually develop websites and if I do, they're 
basically text files). I'll cross-post to kfm-devel so that the 
Konqueror developers also get it.

- --Ben
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