The default buildroot no longer contains python/python3

[Petr Šabata]

Let it be known that due to certain packaging changes implemented
in December, neither python nor python3 are automatically pulled
into the default, minimal buildroot anymore.

This negatively affects packages the require python/python3 at
build time but do not explicitly say so, causing FTBFS issues.
This will manifest itself during the upcoming mass rebuild,
at the latest.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule

If your package is affected, make sure you declare your build
dependencies correctly and add anything that's missing.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRequires_2

See https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1660 for some background on this.

Cheers,
P

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[Igor Gnatenko]

On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 13:13 +0100, Petr Šabata wrote:
> Let it be known that due to certain packaging changes implemented
> in December, neither python nor python3 are automatically pulled
> into the default, minimal buildroot anymore.

I have to note that for python3 it's not really true, since rpm-build
"depends" (one of depgens require functionality to work[0]) on python3-
setuptools.

Hopefully at some point it will be moved to something like python-
generators (like we did with perl).
> This negatively affects packages the require python/python3 at
> build time but do not explicitly say so, causing FTBFS issues.
> This will manifest itself during the upcoming mass rebuild,
> at the latest.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule
>
> If your package is affected, make sure you declare your build
> dependencies correctly and add anything that's missing.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRequires_2
>
> See https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1660 for some background on this.
>
> Cheers,
> P
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[0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1410631

[Petr Šabata]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 02:19:43PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 13:13 +0100, Petr Šabata wrote:
> > Let it be known that due to certain packaging changes implemented
> > in December, neither python nor python3 are automatically pulled
> > into the default, minimal buildroot anymore.
>
> I have to note that for python3 it's not really true, since rpm-build
> "depends" (one of depgens require functionality to work[0]) on python3-
> setuptools.
>
> Hopefully at some point it will be moved to something like python-
> generators (like we did with perl).

Well, that's disappointing.

Since we would really, really like to drop python3 from Base Runtime, finding
some other [easy] solution would be preferred.  Hmmm.

P
> > This negatively affects packages the require python/python3 at
> > build time but do not explicitly say so, causing FTBFS issues.
> > This will manifest itself during the upcoming mass rebuild,
> > at the latest.
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule
> >
> > If your package is affected, make sure you declare your build
> > dependencies correctly and add anything that's missing.
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRequires_2
> >
> > See https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1660 for some background on this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > P
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> [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1410631
>
> -Igor Gnatenko

[Igor Gnatenko]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Petr Šabata  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 02:19:43PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 13:13 +0100, Petr Šabata wrote:
> > > Let it be known that due to certain packaging changes implemented
> > > in December, neither python nor python3 are automatically pulled
> > > into the default, minimal buildroot anymore.
> >
> > I have to note that for python3 it's not really true, since rpm-build
> > "depends" (one of depgens require functionality to work[0]) on python3-
> > setuptools.
> >
> > Hopefully at some point it will be moved to something like python-
> > generators (like we did with perl).
>
> Well, that's disappointing.
>
> Since we would really, really like to drop python3 from Base Runtime, finding
> some other [easy] solution would be preferred.  Hmmm.

But it's part of rpm-build, do you really need to have rpm-build in
base runtime?
> P
> > > This negatively affects packages the require python/python3 at
> > > build time but do not explicitly say so, causing FTBFS issues.
> > > This will manifest itself during the upcoming mass rebuild,
> > > at the latest.
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule
> > >
> > > If your package is affected, make sure you declare your build
> > > dependencies correctly and add anything that's missing.
> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRequires_2
> > >
> > > See https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1660 for some background on this.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > P
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1410631
> >
> > -Igor Gnatenko

[Petr Šabata]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:23:04PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Petr Šabata  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 02:19:43PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 13:13 +0100, Petr Šabata wrote:
> > > > Let it be known that due to certain packaging changes implemented
> > > > in December, neither python nor python3 are automatically pulled
> > > > into the default, minimal buildroot anymore.
> > >
> > > I have to note that for python3 it's not really true, since rpm-build
> > > "depends" (one of depgens require functionality to work[0]) on python3-
> > > setuptools.
> > >
> > > Hopefully at some point it will be moved to something like python-
> > > generators (like we did with perl).
> >
> > Well, that's disappointing.
> >
> > Since we would really, really like to drop python3 from Base Runtime, finding
> > some other [easy] solution would be preferred.  Hmmm.
>
> But it's part of rpm-build, do you really need to have rpm-build in
> base runtime?

We currently provide the minimal buildroot as well; one of the reasons
for that was that distributing parts of rpm in separate, disconnected
modules would cause more trouble than it'd solve.  Another being that
the components in the default builroot are essential and common enough
so that shipping them in a special buildroot module wouldn't make much
sense [at this point?].

P
> > P
> > > > This negatively affects packages the require python/python3 at
> > > > build time but do not explicitly say so, causing FTBFS issues.
> > > > This will manifest itself during the upcoming mass rebuild,
> > > > at the latest.
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/26/Schedule
> > > >
> > > > If your package is affected, make sure you declare your build
> > > > dependencies correctly and add anything that's missing.
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#BuildRequires_2
> > > >
> > > > See https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1660 for some background on this.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > P
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > [0] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1410631
> > >
> > > -Igor Gnatenko