[@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

[Adam Williamson]

Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state of
minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17.

diff: http://paste.stg.fedoraproject.org/2613 - that's f17 DVD minimal
install vs. f18 final tc3 DVD minimal install.

most of the additions track back to NetworkManager, systemd, or
firewalld, but those have been pared down fairly well (could probably be
improved a little more with some work). The addition of man-db and
openssh-clients adds a few other things, but those are probably good
choices. 'make' came in via openssl -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783446 . procps-ng replaces
procps, and udev / libudev are now in systemd / systemd-libs.
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[Thomas Bendler]

2012/12/18 Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt;

>  Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state
> of
>  minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17.
>  [...]
>  
Can you also point to a page with the hole list of packages in minimal?
Otherwise you need to know what was allready in minimal back in f17.

Regards, Thomas
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[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote:
>  2012/12/18 Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt;
>          Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state
>          of
>          minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17.
>          [...]
>  
>  
>  Can you also point to a page with the hole list of packages in
>  minimal? Otherwise you need to know what was allready in minimal back
>  in f17. 
Oh dear, sorry, I just rebooted and lost that data (I tend to keep this
kind of file in /tmp). I could re-generate it if you're really
interested.
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[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 19 December 2012 10:58, Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote:
> > 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >         Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state
> >         of
> >         minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17.
> >         [...]
> >
> >
> > Can you also point to a page with the hole list of packages in
> > minimal? Otherwise you need to know what was allready in minimal back
> > in f17.
>
>  Oh dear, sorry, I just rebooted and lost that data (I tend to keep this
>  kind of file in /tmp). I could re-generate it if you're really
>  interested. 

:). I see what you did just there :)

In actuallity.. I was wondering more about the size differences than
the number of packages. That is what usually gets the complaints.


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[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 11:12 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>  On 19 December 2012 10:58, Adam Williamson
> <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote:
>  >> 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  >>         Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state
>  >>         of
>  >>         minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17.
>  >>         [...]
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Can you also point to a page with the hole list of packages in
>  >> minimal? Otherwise you need to know what was allready in minimal back
>  >> in f17.
>  >
>  > Oh dear, sorry, I just rebooted and lost that data (I tend to keep this
>  > kind of file in /tmp). I could re-generate it if you're really
>  > interested. 
>  :). I see what you did just there :) 
Hm? No snark intended, I keep them in /tmp precisely *because* I want
them to get wiped on reboot, it's a convenient spot to put, well,
_temporary_ things in - otherwise they wind up cluttering up my home
dir.

>  In actuallity.. I was wondering more about the size differences than
>  the number of packages. That is what usually gets the complaints. 
Oh, okay. I think the sizes were pretty similar so I didn't include
them, but if I get a minute I'll check again.
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[Thomas Bendler]

2012/12/19 Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt;

>  [...]
>  Oh dear, sorry, I just rebooted and lost that data (I tend to keep this
>  kind of file in /tmp). I could re-generate it if you're really
>  interested.
>  [...]
>  
I think this would be a nice to have on the wiki page to document the
outcome of the discussions.

Regards, Thomas
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