i3 new SIG

[Eduard Lucena]

Hello guys,

My name is Eduard Lucena, some of you maybe know me, tons of you don't. I'm
part of the marketing team and host of the Fedora Podcast.

I'm starting a SIG about i3 tiling window manager [1], with the final
objective of create a remix that can finish up in an official spin. I have
a ML you can join [2] and I'm hanging around on #fedora-i3 on IRC. I have a
few ideas and I really would love to hear yours.

Br,
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3
[2] i3wm(a)lists.fedoraproject.org

P.D. I want to create a FAS group, but it looks like it requires more than
just having a FAS account. I'll sort out that as soon as possible.
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[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:49:56PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>  Hello guys,
>  
>  My name is Eduard Lucena, some of you maybe know me, tons of you don't. I'm
>  part of the marketing team and host of the Fedora Podcast.
>  
>  I'm starting a SIG about i3 tiling window manager [1], with the final
>  objective of create a remix that can finish up in an official spin. I have
>  a ML you can join [2] and I'm hanging around on #fedora-i3 on IRC. I have a
>  few ideas and I really would love to hear yours. 
What about sway? :)

Zbyszek

[Eduard Lucena]

Hi,


What about sway? :)
>  
Sway have a SIG [1]. You can probably go there and join! :D

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Sway
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[Zachary Snyder]

I was going to say this as well. Fedora already defaults to wayland, sway
uses same configuration files as i3 it seems like a natural step.

Zach

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:27 PM Eduard Lucena <x3mboy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>
>  What about sway? :)
> >
>
>  Sway have a SIG [1]. You can probably go there and join! :D
>
>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Sway
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[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 02:28:30PM -0400, Zachary Snyder wrote:
>  I was going to say this as well. Fedora already defaults to wayland,
> sway
>  uses same configuration files as i3 it seems like a natural step.
>  
>  Zach
>  
>  On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:27 PM Eduard Lucena <x3mboy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
>  wrote:
>  
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >
>  > What about sway? :)
>  >>
>  >
>  > Sway have a SIG [1]. You can probably go there and join! :D
>  >
>  > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Sway 
Oh, indeed it does. So maybe join forces with them? There are many
similarities between the two projects after all.

Zbyszek

[Dan Čermák]

Hi Eduard!

Eduard Lucena <x3mboy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; writes:

>  Hello guys,
>
>  My name is Eduard Lucena, some of you maybe know me, tons of you don't. I'm
>  part of the marketing team and host of the Fedora Podcast.
>
>  I'm starting a SIG about i3 tiling window manager [1], with the final
>  objective of create a remix that can finish up in an official spin. I have
>  a ML you can join [2] and I'm hanging around on #fedora-i3 on IRC. I have a
>  few ideas and I really would love to hear yours. 
As the current maintainer of i3, I kinda have to join ;-)

As others have already mentioned in the thread: we should look into
joining forces with the sway SIG (which I am also a member of). While
a lot of the packages of interest are not really shared, the general
similarity would allow us to save a lot of time when it comes to QA and
the creation of a spin. Maybe we should merge into the tilling window
manager SIG? (with a better name of course).


Cheers,

Dan

[Robbie Harwood]

Dan Čermák <dan.cermak(a)cgc-instruments.com&gt; writes:

>  Eduard Lucena <x3mboy(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; writes:
>
> > My name is Eduard Lucena, some of you maybe know me, tons of you
> > don't. I'm part of the marketing team and host of the Fedora Podcast.
> >
> > I'm starting a SIG about i3 tiling window manager [1], with the final
> > objective of create a remix that can finish up in an official spin. I
> > have a ML you can join [2] and I'm hanging around on #fedora-i3 on
> > IRC. I have a few ideas and I really would love to hear yours.
>
>  As the current maintainer of i3, I kinda have to join ;-)
>
>  As others have already mentioned in the thread: we should look into
>  joining forces with the sway SIG (which I am also a member of). While
>  a lot of the packages of interest are not really shared, the general
>  similarity would allow us to save a lot of time when it comes to QA
>  and the creation of a spin. Maybe we should merge into the tilling
>  window manager SIG? (with a better name of course). 
Depends - do you want us XMonad aficionados to show up? :)

(I'm only half joking here, I think.  There are some common shared
components I think - the suckless stuff, for instance - but also there
should be a limit to how big a tent you want to have here.)

Thanks,
--Robbie

[Eduard Lucena]

Hi Robbie


>  Depends - do you want us XMonad aficionados to show up? :)
>  
Everyone is invited to join.


>  (I'm only half joking here, I think.  There are some common
> shared
>  components I think - the suckless stuff, for instance - but also there
>  should be a limit to how big a tent you want to have here.)
>  
I still use too many X apps, Wayland still doesn't cover a lot of stuff.

>  Thanks,
>  --Robbie
>  
Thinking it more deeply, we can produce a lot of stuff and if Sway is so
compatible with i3 as is stated, they should take benefit when all X-needs
are covered and make the jump smoothly.

Br,

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[Eduard Lucena]

Hi Dan,



Hi Eduard!
>  As the current maintainer of i3, I kinda have to join ;-)
>  
Thanks! Welcome!

As others have already mentioned in the thread: we should look into
>  joining forces with the sway SIG (which I am also a member of).

It's not a bad idea, but TBH, I still want to stay away from Wayland.

While a lot of the packages of interest are not really shared, the general
>  similarity would allow us to save a lot of time when it comes to QA
> and
>  the creation of a spin. Maybe we should merge into the tilling window
>  manager SIG? (with a better name of course).
>  
Well, we can join effort for packaging but produce different Spins, why
not? wdyt?


>  Cheers,
>
>  Dan
>  
Br,
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[Till Hofmann]

Hi Eduard,

On 5/15/20 12:21 AM, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>  
>      As others have already mentioned in the thread: we should look into
>      joining forces with the sway SIG (which I am also a member of).
>  
>  
>  It's not a bad idea, but TBH, I still want to stay away from Wayland.
>  
>      While a lot of the packages of interest are not really shared, the
>      general
>      similarity would allow us to save a lot of time when it comes to QA and
>      the creation of a spin. Maybe we should merge into the tilling window
>      manager SIG? (with a better name of course).
>  
>  
>  Well, we can join effort for packaging but produce different Spins, why
>  not? wdyt?
>    
It's nice to see more interest in i3! But I'm not sure that joining
efforts is such a good idea. While sway and i3 may be very similar from
a user perspective, they are not from a packager's perspective. Also,
while you don't really care about sway, I don't have much interest in
i3. So what exactly would a joined SIG do? All the work would be either
towards i3 or sway, I don't see any synergetic effects of a joint SIG.

Kind regards,
Till

[Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco]

El mié., 13 de may. de 2020 a la(s) 10:51, Eduard Lucena
(x3mboy(a)fedoraproject.org) escribió:
>  Hello guys, 
Hi.

>  [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3 
Regarding to the minimum packages list pending on the Wiki, what I
have always done to install i3wm without having to rely on other
install mediums like Fedora Workstation Live DVD or any other Spin, is
to use the Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64 from https://alt.fedoraproject.org/

This install media provides the option of a very minimal Fedora
Install, you only have to mark the checkbox for Minimal or Custom
Install, just that. No more than that. Then after the first boot up
you will have to rely on a Wired Network interface connection or a
Mobile USB Tethered Network to install the rest of the packages set
which are the followings.

dnf -y group install networkmanager-submodules
dnf -y group install core
dnf -y install dial-up
dnf -y group install fonts
dnf -y group install guest-desktop-agents
dnf -y group install hardware-support
dnf -y group install multimedia
dnf -y group install standard
dnf -y group install base-x
dnf -y group install input-methods
dnf -y install fedora-icon-theme
dnf -y install gnome-icon-theme
dnf -y install gnome-icon-theme-extras
dnf -y install i3
dnf -y install lightdm-gtk
dnf -y install xdg-user-dirs

Then I just:

systemctl set-default graphical.target

And:

systemctl enable lightdm.service

Finally:

reboot.

I guess after all this, you can generate the list of packages with:
dnf list installed > fedora_i3wm.txt

There are other issues to solve that we can discuss on the SIG Mailing
list so we can achieve a MVP that suits the Spin philosophy.

Porfirio.