FC11 packages 'newer' than FC12

[Przemek Klosowski]

I originally reported this through bugzilla, but at Rahul's suggestion,
I am posting this to the fedora-devel.

Some Fedora 12 packages have versions that do not supersede the versions 
of Fedora 11 packages, preventing a complete upgrade to FC12. A partial 
list is:

tigervnc-1.0.0-2.fc11.i586
gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586
libotf-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586
nautilus-cd-burner-libs-2.25.3-7.fc11.i586
lame-libs-3.98.2-3.fc11.i586
iptstate-2.2.2-3.fc11.i586
kmodtool-1-18.fc11.noarch
preupgrade-1.1.2-1.fc11.noarch
parrot-docs-1.6.0-2.fc11.noarch
mod_dnssd-0.6-2.fc11.i586
libnetfilter_conntrack-0.0.100-1.fc11.i586
a52dec-0.7.4-15.fc11.i586
faad2-libs-2.7-1.fc11.i586
libvolume_id-141-7.fc11.i586
twolame-libs-0.3.12-4.fc11.i586
parrot-1.6.0-2.fc11.i586
parrot-devel-1.6.0-2.fc11.i586
parrot-tools-1.6.0-2.fc11.i586
faac-1.28-1.fc11.1.i586
iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586
sos-1.8-17.fc11.noarch
gnome-mount-0.8-5.fc11.i586

For example, 'yum update iw' does nothing; 'yum install iw' results in
an error message

Transaction Check Error:
    package iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than
iw-0.9.17-2.fc12.i686) is
already installed

Similar behavior for all other packages on the list.

[Jeff MacDonald]

greetings,

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 01:03:44PM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>  I originally reported this through bugzilla, but at Rahul's
> suggestion,
>  I am posting this to the fedora-devel.
>  
what is the bugzilla id? I would like to track this.

regards,
J

[Przemek Klosowski]

On 11/19/2009 01:08 PM, Jeff MacDonald wrote:
>  greetings,
>
>  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 01:03:44PM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> > I originally reported this through bugzilla, but at Rahul's suggestion,
> > I am posting this to the fedora-devel.
> >
>
>  what is the bugzilla id? I would like to track this.
>
>  regards,
>  J
>  
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538657

it has been closed because there is not a good category for it
(it's more of a packaging 'business process' issue than a problem with a 
particular package). That's why Rahul suggested posting it here

[James Antill]

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:03 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>  I originally reported this through bugzilla, but at Rahul's
> suggestion,
>  I am posting this to the fedora-devel.
>  
>  Some Fedora 12 packages have versions that do not supersede the versions 
>  of Fedora 11 packages, preventing a complete upgrade to FC12. A partial 
>  list is: 
[...]
>  For example, 'yum update iw' does nothing; 'yum install
> iw' results in
>  an error message
>
>  Transaction Check Error:
>      package iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than
>  iw-0.9.17-2.fc12.i686) is
>  already installed 
 This is due to the .i586 => .i686 change, probably worth a BZ against
yum. downgrade also has problems ... of course this should really be the
last time now, so adding any more hacks is going to be a low priority.

-- 
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http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/whatsnew/3.2.25
http://yum.baseurl.org/wiki/YumMultipleMachineCaching

[Stu Tomlinson]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 13:19, James Antill <james(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:03 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>  [...]
> > For example, 'yum update iw' does nothing; 'yum install iw' results
> in
> > an error message
> >
> > Transaction Check Error:
> >     package iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than
> > iw-0.9.17-2.fc12.i686) is
> > already installed
>
>   This is due to the .i586 => .i686 change, probably worth a BZ against
>  yum. downgrade also has problems ... of course this should really be the
>  last time now, so adding any more hacks is going to be a low priority. 
Surely it's more due to the fact that 3 > 2.

[James Antill]

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:38 -0500, Stu Tomlinson wrote:
>  On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 13:19, James Antill
> <james(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:03 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>  > [...]
>  >> For example, 'yum update iw' does nothing; 'yum install iw'
> results in
>  >> an error message
>  >>
>  >> Transaction Check Error:
>  >>     package iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than
>  >> iw-0.9.17-2.fc12.i686) is
>  >> already installed
>  >
>  >  This is due to the .i586 => .i686 change, probably worth a BZ against
>  > yum. downgrade also has problems ... of course this should really be the
>  > last time now, so adding any more hacks is going to be a low priority.
>  
>  Surely it's more due to the fact that 3 > 2. 
 No, the bug is that it fails at "Transaction Check" time. For instance
on an F11 box, I have:

% sudo yum list yum --showduplicates
Loaded plugins: aliases, keys, noop, presto, security, tmprepo
Installed Packages
yum.noarch                        3.2.24-9.fc12                         @rawhide
Available Packages
yum.noarch                        3.2.22-4.fc11                         fedora  
yum.noarch                        3.2.24-2.fc11                         updates 

...and if I try to "install yum" it says:

% sudo yum install yum
Loaded plugins: aliases, keys, noop, presto, security, tmprepo
Setting up Install Process
Package matching yum-3.2.24-2.fc11.noarch already installed. Checking for update.
Nothing to do
% 

...which is what it should be doing in the above cases, but the change
from .i586 to .i686 confuses the install/downgrade paths.

-- 
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[Adam Williamson]

On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:19 -0500, James Antill wrote:
>  On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:03 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>  > I originally reported this through bugzilla, but at Rahul's suggestion,
>  > I am posting this to the fedora-devel.
>  > 
>  > Some Fedora 12 packages have versions that do not supersede the versions 
>  > of Fedora 11 packages, preventing a complete upgrade to FC12. A partial 
>  > list is:
>  [...]
>  > For example, 'yum update iw' does nothing; 'yum install iw' results
> in
>  > an error message
>  >
>  > Transaction Check Error:
>  >     package iw-0.9.17-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than
>  > iw-0.9.17-2.fc12.i686) is
>  > already installed
>  
>   This is due to the .i586 => .i686 change, probably worth a BZ against
>  yum. downgrade also has problems ... of course this should really be the
>  last time now, so adding any more hacks is going to be a low priority. 
Er? No, it isn't, it's because -3.fc11 is bigger than -2.fc12. the arch
is irrelevant.

-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
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http://www.happyassassin.net

[Neal Becker]

I've been trying to fix libotf, but make tag is doing something really 
strange.

Here is my previous post:
Something seems strange here with libotf.  I want to push 0.9.9-3 for F12.  
I went into my F-12 subdir and did the usual
make tag build

ERROR: Tag libotf-0_9_9-3_fc12 has been already created.

OK, I bumped the tag.

cvs tag  -c libotf-0_9_9-3_fc12_1
ERROR: Tag libotf-0_9_9-3_fc12_1 has been already created.

That's strange.  OK, bump tag again:
cvs tag  -c libotf-0_9_9-3_fc12_2
ERROR: Tag libotf-0_9_9-3_fc12_2 has been already created.

Now I'm really confused.