Gnome 3 delayed

[Michał Piotrowski]

Hi,

It seems that Gnome 3 will be released in march 2011. How will this
affect Fedora 14? Gnome 3 was an important feature of F14.

http://lwn.net/Articles/397482/

Regards,
Michal

[James Laska]

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 16:27 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  It seems that Gnome 3 will be released in march 2011. How will this
>  affect Fedora 14? Gnome 3 was an important feature of F14.
>  
>  http://lwn.net/Articles/397482/ 
I believe it will continued to be offered as an experimental option.
From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3#Contingency_Plan ...

"If gnome-shell is not complete or stable enough, keep it experimental
and stay with 'classical GNOME' as the default. Users will still be able
to try the shell manually, just like in F12 and F13. "

Thanks,
James

[Chris Jones]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:36 AM, James Laska <jlaska(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 16:27 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > It seems that Gnome 3 will be released in march 2011. How will this
>  > affect Fedora 14? Gnome 3 was an important feature of F14.
>  >
>  > http://lwn.net/Articles/397482/
>
>  I believe it will continued to be offered as an experimental option.
>  From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3#Contingency_Plan ...
>
>  "If gnome-shell is not complete or stable enough, keep it experimental
>  and stay with 'classical GNOME' as the default. Users will still be able
>  to try the shell manually, just like in F12 and F13. "
>
>  Thanks,
>  James
>  
I'm not going to pretend that I'm not pleased about the delay. I plan
to keep using G2 for as long as I possible can, long after the Gnome 3
release.

Regards


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[Michał Piotrowski]

2010/7/28 James Laska <jlaska(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 16:27 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It seems that Gnome 3 will be released in march 2011. How will this
> > affect Fedora 14? Gnome 3 was an important feature of F14.
> >
> > http://lwn.net/Articles/397482/
>
>  I believe it will continued to be offered as an experimental option.
>  From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3#Contingency_Plan ...
>
>  "If gnome-shell is not complete or stable enough, keep it experimental
>  and stay with 'classical GNOME' as the default. Users will still be able
>  to try the shell manually, just like in F12 and F13. "
>  
Good to know that there is a contingency plan.

Regards,
Michal

[Michał Piotrowski]

2010/7/29 Chris Jones <chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au&gt;:
>  On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:36 AM, James Laska
> <jlaska(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 16:27 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > It seems that Gnome 3 will be released in march 2011. How will this
> > > affect Fedora 14? Gnome 3 was an important feature of F14.
> > >
> > > http://lwn.net/Articles/397482/
> >
> > I believe it will continued to be offered as an experimental option.
> > From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3#Contingency_Plan ...
> >
> > "If gnome-shell is not complete or stable enough, keep it experimental
> > and stay with 'classical GNOME' as the default. Users will still be able
> > to try the shell manually, just like in F12 and F13. "
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
>
>  I'm not going to pretend that I'm not pleased about the delay. I plan
>  to keep using G2 for as long as I possible can, long after the Gnome 3
>  release. 
Is it possible to disable gnome-shell in the gnome 3? Or because it is
not the case you want to continue to use gname 2?

Regards,
Michal

BTW. I know how difficult this transition can be - I still do not like
kde 4 when I liked a kde 3...

[Chris Jones]

2010/7/29 Michał Piotrowski <mkkp4x4(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>  2010/7/29 Chris Jones <chrisjones(a)comcen.com.au&gt;:
> >
> > I'm not going to pretend that I'm not pleased about the delay. I plan
> > to keep using G2 for as long as I possible can, long after the Gnome 3
> > release.
>
>  Is it possible to disable gnome-shell in the gnome 3? Or because it is
>  not the case you want to continue to use gname 2?
>
>  Regards,
>  Michal
>
>  BTW. I know how difficult this transition can be - I still do not like
>  kde 4 when I liked a kde 3...
>  -- 
I just don't like the direction that Gnome development is heading with
G3. And I think that the changes being made are unnecessary to move
the desktop environment forward. I prefer a more less intrusive and
simplified desktop such as G2 in its current form.

I also agree with your KDE3 versus KDE4 comments. I much liked KDE3.
And am not a great fan of KDE4 although it is finally starting to
mature. I am currently using KDE4.4.4 with 2.6.34 kernel and I have to
admit that it is very snappy indeed. Much snappier than some of the
earlier iterations of KDE4.

Regards


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[Bastien Nocera]

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 16:27 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  It seems that Gnome 3 will be released in march 2011. How will this
>  affect Fedora 14? Gnome 3 was an important feature of F14. 
This is being discussed on the fedora-desktop list, and Matthias, as the
person who has the best view of the complete desktop, will discuss this
with the stakeholders and most likely FESco before coming to a
conclusion.

See the list for the plans we discussed with hughsie and some upstream
maintainers.

Cheers