Liberation 2.0 font development plan based on croscore fonts.

Hi All,

  Most of you aware regarding liberation license problem we are facing from
long time. Looks like time came when we can get rid of it.

 Google has recently released google-croscore fonts.
    -  These are from same vendor ascendar with OFL license and more glyph
coverage than existing liberation.
    -  Existing shape in liberation and same as croscore since from the
same vendor.

  Plan:
    - Use base of croscore fonts and apply enhancements available in
liberation and call new entity liberation 2.0

  Advantage:
   1. Liberation license issues will get resolved
   2. Liberation user community will get enhanced fonts. i.e. more language
coverage.

  Need help from legal for doing licensing stuff, dunno how we can crack
licensing of Liberation SansNarrow.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Lun 21 mai 2012 08:23, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com a écrit :

>      - Use base of croscore fonts and apply enhancements available in
>  liberation and call new entity liberation 2.0 
That would be great !

(but please don't add the 2.0 to the name)

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

On 21 May 2012 23:08, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net&gt; wrote:

>  Le Lun 21 mai 2012 08:23, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com a écrit :
>
>  >     - Use base of croscore fonts and apply enhancements available in
>  > liberation and call new entity liberation 2.0
>
>  That would be great !
>
>  (but please don't add the 2.0 to the name)
>  
Yes sure.

Thanks,
Pravin Satpute

On 21 May 2012 11:53, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com <pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
>    Most of you aware regarding liberation license problem we are facing
>  from long time. Looks like time came when we can get rid of it.
>
>   Google has recently released google-croscore fonts.
>      -  These are from same vendor ascendar with OFL license and more glyph
>  coverage than existing liberation.
>      -  Existing shape in liberation and same as croscore since from the
>  same vendor.
>
>    Plan:
>      - Use base of croscore fonts and apply enhancements available in
>  liberation and call new entity liberation 2.0
>
>    Advantage:
>     1. Liberation license issues will get resolved
>     2. Liberation user community will get enhanced fonts. i.e. more
>  language coverage.
>
>    Need help from legal for doing licensing stuff, dunno how we can crack
>  licensing of Liberation SansNarrow.
>  

I have completed initial work. Yet not able to solve LiberationSansNarrow
licensing stuff might be it will take some more time. Updated .sfd's are
available in upstream master branch.
Planning to release it by Friday, early testing is welcome.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

[Andrew Haley]

On 07/11/2012 08:51 AM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote:
>  I have completed initial work. Yet not able to solve
> LiberationSansNarrow
>  licensing stuff might be it will take some more time 
Most people reading devel probably don't know what the LiberationSansNarrow
licensing problem is.

Andrew.

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/11/2012 02:58 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>  On 07/11/2012 08:51 AM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > I have completed initial work. Yet not able to solve LiberationSansNarrow
> > licensing stuff might be it will take some more time
>  
>  Most people reading devel probably don't know what the LiberationSansNarrow
>  licensing problem is. 
The problem is that particular variant was donated by Oracle under the
Liberation license and Google croscore doesn't have that variant either.
 So we are basically struck with it for now.

Rahul

[Nicolas Mailhot]

>  On 07/11/2012 02:58 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> > On 07/11/2012 08:51 AM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >> I have completed initial work. Yet not able to solve
> >> LiberationSansNarrow
> >> licensing stuff might be it will take some more time
> >
> > Most people reading devel probably don't know what the
> > LiberationSansNarrow
> > licensing problem is.
>
>  The problem is that particular variant was donated by Oracle under the
>  Liberation license and Google croscore doesn't have that variant either.
>   So we are basically struck with it for now. 
And Oracle did it because they wanted an Arial Narrow replacement for
OpenOffice.org, so I doubt they'll participate in any relicensing now that
they got rid of this product line (I'd be delighted to be proven wrong!)

It sucks but that means for now the project should probably be split in
two: Liberation v2 with OFL license gased on Google files, and v1 keeping
only Narrows with the old Liberation License




-- 
Nicolas Mailhot

On 11 July 2012 18:55, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot(a)laposte.net&gt; wrote:

>  > On 07/11/2012 02:58 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>  >> On 07/11/2012 08:51 AM, pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote:
>  >>> I have completed initial work. Yet not able to solve
>  >>> LiberationSansNarrow
>  >>> licensing stuff might be it will take some more time
>  >>
>  >> Most people reading devel probably don't know what the
>  >> LiberationSansNarrow
>  >> licensing problem is.
>  >
>  > The problem is that particular variant was donated by Oracle under the
>  > Liberation license and Google croscore doesn't have that variant either.
>  >  So we are basically struck with it for now.
>
>  And Oracle did it because they wanted an Arial Narrow replacement for
>  OpenOffice.org, so I doubt they'll participate in any relicensing now that
>  they got rid of this product line (I'd be delighted to be proven wrong!)
>
>  It sucks but that means for now the project should probably be split in
>  two: Liberation v2 with OFL license gased on Google files, and v1 keeping
>  only Narrows with the old Liberation License
>  
Yes, that is the present plan.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute