Media Sizes SRPMS DVD

[Frank Murphy]

Freemedia Hat on.

Seeing the other thread where size limits have been spoken about:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-June/184345.html

Looking at:
http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora-18-source-DVD.torrent 8.8GB
Hazard a guess F19 will be similar.
It's pushed the limit of single-side dual-layer DVD 8.5GB app,
there is a cost involved for many to send\give away 16gb Sticks.

Could it be split over two std. 4.7 gb DVD,
either officially, or give us in Freemedia
a green light to split ourselves.

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[drago01]

On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Frank Murphy <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Freemedia Hat on.
>
>  Seeing the other thread where size limits have been spoken about:
>  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-June/184345.html
>
>  Looking at:
>  http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora-18-source-DVD.torrent 8.8GB
>  Hazard a guess F19 will be similar.
>  It's pushed the limit of single-side dual-layer DVD 8.5GB app,
>  there is a cost involved for many to send\give away 16gb Sticks.
>
>  Could it be split over two std. 4.7 gb DVD,
>  either officially, or give us in Freemedia
>  a green light to split ourselves. 
Do people download / use the SRPM DVDs rather then just download the
ones they are interested in?

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 00:45 +0200, drago01 wrote:
>  On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Frank Murphy
> <frankly3d(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Freemedia Hat on.
>  >
>  > Seeing the other thread where size limits have been spoken about:
>  > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-June/184345.html
>  >
>  > Looking at:
>  > http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora-18-source-DVD.torrent 8.8GB
>  > Hazard a guess F19 will be similar.
>  > It's pushed the limit of single-side dual-layer DVD 8.5GB app,
>  > there is a cost involved for many to send\give away 16gb Sticks.
>  >
>  > Could it be split over two std. 4.7 gb DVD,
>  > either officially, or give us in Freemedia
>  > a green light to split ourselves.
>  
>  Do people download / use the SRPM DVDs rather then just download the
>  ones they are interested in? 
It does seem a tad...vestigial.
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[John Reiser]

> > Do people download / use the SRPM DVDs rather then just download
> the
> > ones they are interested in? 
>  It does seem a tad...vestigial. 
If you want to give away copies of the DVD with binaries,
then under GPL you must offer the source similarly,
or promise to maintain for 3 years a download site
with the *CORRESPONDING* source.  Your obligation
ends three years sooner if you _offer_ the source on DVD
at the same time as the binary.  As soon as someone
declines the source DVD, then you're off the hook.

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2013-06-24 at 16:37 -0700, John Reiser wrote:
>  >> Do people download / use the SRPM DVDs rather then just
> download the
>  >> ones they are interested in?
>  
>  > It does seem a tad...vestigial.
>  
>  If you want to give away copies of the DVD with binaries,
>  then under GPL you must offer the source similarly,
>  or promise to maintain for 3 years a download site
>  with the *CORRESPONDING* source.  Your obligation
>  ends three years sooner if you _offer_ the source on DVD
>  at the same time as the binary.  As soon as someone
>  declines the source DVD, then you're off the hook. 
Yes. I know that. But that's a boring legal technicality. We can
perfectly well satisfy that by providing a 600GB image if we want to.
This thread is about the case of someone who for some weird reason
*actually wants to burn the stupid image to an actual form of media*.
What I'm suggesting is that no-one has any good reason to do that any
more.

(Our legal obligations may be discharged simply by the fact we keep the
entire frozen tree, including SRPMs, for each release on the mirror, but
that's an entirely different bikeshed and IANAL).
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Adam Williamson
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[Frank Murphy]

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:42:22 -0700
Adam Williamson <awilliam(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

>  (Our legal obligations may be discharged simply by the fact we keep
>  the entire frozen tree, including SRPMs, for each release on the
>  mirror, but that's an entirely different bikeshed and IANAL). 
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#DistributeWith...

If they ask for it to accompany the mailed LiveMedia\DVD, 
they have to be mailed one.

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[Frank Murphy]

On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:45:25 +0200
drago01 <drago01(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:


>  
>  Do people download / use the SRPM DVDs rather then just download the
>  ones they are interested in? 
https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html

It's the downloading bit that can be the problem.

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