Relying on $PATH in RPM scriplets

[Lukas Zapletal]

Hey,

since we provide cloud images starting with Fedora 19, I noticed that
cloud-init, which is used in these, does not execute user shell scripts
with $PATH set properly which is causing issues for packages that does
not provide full paths in scriplets.

I know we have some examples which relies on $PATH set to at least
/usr/bin and /sbin, for example:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:UsersAndGroups

I am searching for page that says one can rely on the $PATH. Cannot find
it.

Thanks!

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[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 06:06:00PM +0200, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
>  Hey,
>  
>  since we provide cloud images starting with Fedora 19, I noticed that
>  cloud-init, which is used in these, does not execute user shell scripts
>  with $PATH set properly which is causing issues for packages that does
>  not provide full paths in scriplets.
>  
>  I know we have some examples which relies on $PATH set to at least
>  /usr/bin and /sbin, for example:
>  
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:UsersAndGroups
>  
>  I am searching for page that says one can rely on the $PATH. Cannot find
>  it. 
I searched the source for cloud-init in Rawhide, and it doesn't
mention PATH at all, except in one example.  So I conclude that
cloud-init doesn't set PATH at all and must get it from systemd.
(I can't find out what environment systemd sets up by default either ...
Ask Lennart?)

IMHO there's probably a case for filing a bug with upstream cloud-init
and getting them to drop something like:

  Environment=PATH=[some predictable path]

into cloud-init-0.7.2/systemd/cloud-*.service.

Rich.

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Relying on $PATH in RPM scriplets + little bit of marketing

[Lukas Zapletal]

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 06:00:04PM +0100, Richard Jones wrote:
>  IMHO there's probably a case for filing a bug with upstream
> cloud-init
>  and getting them to drop something like:
>  
>    Environment=PATH=[some predictable path]
>  
>  into cloud-init-0.7.2/systemd/cloud-*.service. 
Oh, good point. Thank you Richard!

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990910

<Comment>
Nine thousands to go, whoo!

Which reminds me - are we prepared from the marketing perspective? I can
imagine Phoronix.com to publish an article "Red Hat reaches million
bugs". We should have some PR prepared explaining that we track features
there (I can imagine writing "mostly features" there :-)
</Comment>

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Relying on $PATH in RPM scriplets + little bit of marketing

[Lukas Zapletal]

On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:06:15AM +0200, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
>  Which reminds me - are we prepared from the marketing perspective? I
> can
>  imagine Phoronix.com to publish an article "Red Hat reaches million
>  bugs". We should have some PR prepared explaining that we track features
>  there (I can imagine writing "mostly features" there :-) 
I should think twice before sending an e-mail. The all above applies,
but more to Fedora of course: "Fedora reaches million bugs". The whole
point is: these are not just bugs! ;-)

Ok back to work, this only proves that hackers like me are really bad in
marketing.

LZ

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Relying on $PATH in RPM scriplets + little bit of marketing

[Mathieu Bridon]

On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 10:13 +0200, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
>  On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:06:15AM +0200, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
>  > Which reminds me - are we prepared from the marketing perspective? I can
>  > imagine Phoronix.com to publish an article "Red Hat reaches million
>  > bugs". We should have some PR prepared explaining that we track features
>  > there (I can imagine writing "mostly features" there :-)
>  
>  I should think twice before sending an e-mail. The all above applies,
>  but more to Fedora of course: "Fedora reaches million bugs". The whole
>  point is: these are not just bugs! ;-) 
There might not be anything special about it, Ubuntu has more than 1.2
million bugs opened in Launchpad.


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Mathieu