On Fri, 2017-08-04 at 09:24 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 11:23:30AM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> Do a stable release do Fedora 25.1 or 26.1
> install a live disk and have 2 bg of updates is a joke,
> you may take double of the time but do something that we can call
> stable .
Making a stable release like this would imply that we go through the
effort that we do with our actual stable releases. This is a lot of
work. So, this idea is much easier said than done.
Note, though, that if you use the network installer instead of the
CD, you can have the updates repo eanbled for the initial install, so
you *just* get the new versions of packages.
Matthew and all in general ,
I'm very sorry for my bad mood and I apologize.
But what I want emphasize is that we are losing the concept of
stability not just in Fedora, it is in many other projects, KDE for
example, simply don't have any "stable" or LTS release or something
like that, that is real stable and solid as rock.
For packages maintainers like me, that maintain packages in free time,
we got more and more work and begins to become impossible maintain all
packages correctly, we got lot of packages that aren't updated because
people simple don't have time, so should be important, that some team
take care of completely out-date packages, like, for example, gitlib
, also maybe in wild changes like systemd, selinux, appdata, etc,
the team help packagers on maintain his packages.
About ISOs available at http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respin
s/ , yeah I forgot that, IHMO, it should be mention on https://getfedor
a.org/ . Also I notice it now :) , if we also have netinstall images
updated, it will be awesome.
About "Making a stable release like this would imply that we go through
the QA " OK I know, anyway I think you should consider that, I think
they will have much less work than the first release, because usually
when we respin packages that are in stable releases we don't have any
On F25 , if I'm correct, we got rpm update of backend database and it
is awful when we do an rpm command in a middle of one dnf upgrade after
a fresh live installation, we got a big rpm error and and we will need
rebuild rpm database I guess etc. So with one updated live or with
F25.1 release we could have more sense of stability.
Best regards and thanks,
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Sérgio M. B.