8:56 a.m.
I want to create subj (VM server - minimal CentOS 6 x64 + libvirtd) but
don't know - how to do this.
Without locally installed CentOS.
Anakonda? Koji?
10:03 a.m.
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Eugene Pivnev <ti.eugene(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I want to create subj (VM server - minimal CentOS 6 x64 + libvirtd)
but
don't know - how to do this.
Without locally installed CentOS.
Anakonda? Koji?
Completely the wrong mailing list to discuss this... centos has their
own lists... I suggest trying there.
Peter
2:42 p.m.
13.06.2013 19:03, Peter Robinson:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Eugene Pivnev
<ti.eugene(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to create subj (VM server - minimal CentOS 6 x64 + libvirtd) but
> don't know - how to do this.
> Without locally installed CentOS.
> Anakonda? Koji?
Completely the wrong mailing list to discuss this... centos has their
own lists... I suggest trying there.
Peter
I'm sorry, I'm newbie in Fedora community.
I thought as I'm building my packages as for Fedora as for EL (using
Fedora infrastructure) and trying to make special spin for Fedora - I
can ask here "how to create spin for EL".
6:50 p.m.
It's exceptionally difficult and unreliable for RHEL or CentOS to build packages for
current or recent releases with "mock" or other chroot cage tool kits. Too many
non-backwards compatible changes in RPM and yum.
I use mock and a recent Fedora to build packages for RHEL, especially to test EPEL
compatibility.
Nico Kadel-Garcia
Email: nkadel(a)gmail.com
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On Jun 13, 2013, at 15:42, Eugene Pivnev <ti.eugene(a)gmail.com> wrote:
13.06.2013 19:03, Peter Robinson:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Eugene Pivnev <ti.eugene(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> I want to create subj (VM server - minimal CentOS 6 x64 + libvirtd) but
>> don't know - how to do this.
>> Without locally installed CentOS.
>> Anakonda? Koji?
> Completely the wrong mailing list to discuss this... centos has their
> own lists... I suggest trying there.
>
> Peter
I'm sorry, I'm newbie in Fedora community.
I thought as I'm building my packages as for Fedora as for EL (using Fedora
infrastructure) and trying to make special spin for Fedora - I can ask here "how to
create spin for EL".
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11:59 a.m.
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:50:05 -0400
Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It's exceptionally difficult and unreliable for RHEL or CentOS
to
build packages for current or recent releases with "mock" or other
chroot cage tool kits. Too many non-backwards compatible changes in
RPM and yum.
Hum? rpm and yum in the mock chroot are the versions from RHEL/CentOS
when you are building against those. Perhaps I am not parsing what you
are saying here.
I use mock and a recent Fedora to build packages for RHEL,
especially
to test EPEL compatibility.
Sure. The only things that will trip you up are things like kernel
issues, which are pretty corner case.
kevin
12:14 p.m.
On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:50:05 -0400
Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> It's exceptionally difficult and unreliable for RHEL or CentOS to
> build packages for current or recent releases with "mock" or other
> chroot cage tool kits. Too many non-backwards compatible changes in
> RPM and yum.
Hum? rpm and yum in the mock chroot are the versions from RHEL/CentOS
when you are building against those. Perhaps I am not parsing what you
are saying here.
Right. Nico is asserting that building packages for modern Fedora on RHEL or CentOS is
difficult and unreliable. Building packages for RHEL or CentOS on modern Fedora is
trivial.
-- Corey
12:22 p.m.
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:14:25 -0700
Corey Quinn <corey(a)sequestered.net> wrote:
On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:50:05 -0400
> Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's exceptionally difficult and unreliable for RHEL or CentOS to
>> build packages for current or recent releases with "mock" or other
>> chroot cage tool kits. Too many non-backwards compatible changes in
>> RPM and yum.
>
> Hum? rpm and yum in the mock chroot are the versions from
> RHEL/CentOS when you are building against those. Perhaps I am not
> parsing what you are saying here.
Right. Nico is asserting that building packages for modern Fedora on
RHEL or CentOS is difficult and unreliable. Building packages for
RHEL or CentOS on modern Fedora is trivial.
Ah, I see.
IMHO, you should use mock anytime you build any packages, and if you do
that, the platform you run mock on largely doesn't matter (with a few
rare corner cases).
kevin
12:34 p.m.
On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com> wrote:
Ah, I see.
IMHO, you should use mock anytime you build any packages, and if you do
that, the platform you run mock on largely doesn't matter (with a few
rare corner cases).
…except for the bit where this breaks in many cases if you're running mock on EL6 and
trying to build for Fedora-recent, which was Nico's point.
-- Corey
12:36 p.m.
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:34:12 -0700
Corey Quinn <corey(a)sequestered.net> wrote:
…except for the bit where this breaks in many cases if you're
running
mock on EL6 and trying to build for Fedora-recent, which was Nico's
point.
Many cases ?
Note that all our builders are RHEL6, building packages for Fedora in
mock. The number of cases of issues related to this that I know of
is... very small.
If it was many cases, should we not see those building Fedora packages?
kevin
8:09 p.m.
This argument falls over by the fact that the fedora builders are all rhel 6 except for
the arm ones that are running fedora 18. it is true you can not use rhel 5
Corey Quinn <corey(a)sequestered.net> wrote:
On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin(a)scrye.com>
wrote:
>
> Ah, I see.
>
> IMHO, you should use mock anytime you build any packages, and if you
do
> that, the platform you run mock on largely doesn't matter (with a few
> rare corner cases).
>
…except for the bit where this breaks in many cases if you're running
mock on EL6 and trying to build for Fedora-recent, which was Nico's
point.
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12:52 a.m.
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis(a)ausil.us> wrote:
This argument falls over by the fact that the fedora builders are all
rhel 6
except for the arm ones that are running fedora 18. it is true you can not
use rhel 5
That is precisely the kind of situation I encountered in the past..
I'm a little surprised it's working so well with RHEL 6.
12:56 p.m.
You should take a look at the oVirt project and the oVirt node build process
On Jun 13, 2013 9:56 AM, "Eugene Pivnev" <ti.eugene(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I want to create subj (VM server - minimal CentOS 6 x64 + libvirtd)
but
don't know - how to do this.
Without locally installed CentOS.
Anakonda? Koji?
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