6:38 a.m.
Hi
Someone was complaining about the difficulty with customizing GNOME and
disabling the command line among other things. Sabayon can do this and
much more. Available in Fedora Extras repository. Here is a screencast
for you to check this out
http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/sabayon-screencast.html
Courtesy: http://fedoraproject.org/people
Have fun!
regards
Rahul
6:59 a.m.
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 06:08:14PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Seems to be a link to a proprietary plugin object.
7:04 a.m.
Alan Cox wrote:
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 06:08:14PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/sabayon-screencast.html
>
>
Seems to be a link to a proprietary plugin object.
Yes. Flash. Someone can make Ogg theora movies. Istanbul in Fedora
Extras is useful for that
regards
Rahul
7:17 a.m.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 18:34 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 06:08:14PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/sabayon-screencast.html
>>
>>
>
>Seems to be a link to a proprietary plugin object.
>
>
>
Yes. Flash. Someone can make Ogg theora movies. Istanbul in Fedora
Extras is useful for that
I used vnc2swf, which is very nice for doing screencasts, does Istanbul
work similarly? If someone could recode the file as ogg that would be
very nice.
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7:23 a.m.
Hi
>Extras is useful for that
>
>
I used vnc2swf, which is very nice for doing screencasts, does Istanbul
work similarly? If someone could recode the file as ogg that would be
very nice.
It doesnt work in a similar fashion but essentially does the same thing.
If you can check this out from extras and do this one and future
screencasts in the Ogg Theora format, it would probably reach a wider
audience not wanting to deal with proprietary formats and works out of
the box on Fedora
regards
Rahul
Ps: I installed a seperate browser and flash in it just to view this
screencast
8:53 a.m.
On 11/7/05, Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I used vnc2swf, which is very nice for doing screencasts, does
Istanbul
work similarly? If someone could recode the file as ogg that would be
very nice.
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting
as the page says you need the gst-plugins from rawhide. The magic that
makes this possible was introduced in gst-plugins post fc4. There are
of course performance caveats. I've packaged this up in
extras-development specifically with the hopes that people will start
using this and feel inspired to contribute back to upstream gst to
make the performance better.
You can skip using istanbul entirely and use a gst pipeline in a
terminal if you want to be super geeky about it.
-jef
9:17 a.m.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 09:53 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On 11/7/05, Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> I used vnc2swf, which is very nice for doing screencasts, does Istanbul
> work similarly? If someone could recode the file as ogg that would be
> very nice.
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting
as the page says you need the gst-plugins from rawhide. The magic that
makes this possible was introduced in gst-plugins post fc4. There are
of course performance caveats. I've packaged this up in
extras-development specifically with the hopes that people will start
using this and feel inspired to contribute back to upstream gst to
make the performance better.
You can skip using istanbul entirely and use a gst pipeline in a
terminal if you want to be super geeky about it.
It seems like istanbul is doing a full screengrab for each frame. That
can never compete with an XDamage based system like e.g. the gnome vnc
server that I use with vnc2swf.
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9:27 a.m.
Hi
It seems like istanbul is doing a full screengrab for each frame. That
can never compete with an XDamage based system like e.g. the gnome vnc
server that I use with vnc2swf.
Perhaps not but it would probably suffice to do a screencast. One quick
grab I did a few months back on a rawhide system. Not a comprehensive
test by any means but it did work well except for being serious
demanding on resources.
http://people.redhat.com/sundaram/desktop-recording.ogg
The developer might be open to suggestions on use a different efficient
framework
http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
regards
Rahul
9:28 a.m.
On 11/7/05, Alexander Larsson <alexl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
It seems like istanbul is doing a full screengrab for each frame.
That
can never compete with an XDamage based system like e.g. the gnome vnc
server that I use with vnc2swf.
I could have sworn the gst coders were working on xdamage support for
the ximagesrc gst-plugin. Instabul is a very thin layer over gst
really. The real magic is the gst pipeline. I wonder if anyone with
first hand gst development experience could comment on this more
accurately.
I never claimed the performance was the best, but this is the best
open solution we have right now. Since we can not ship a
flashplayer...yet... this community needs theora solutions... not
flash ones. Regardless of the present performance problems there are
certaintly benefits to working with this technology now.
-jef"wouldn't it be great if gst gained support for vnc session
capture directly to theora"spaleta
8:22 a.m.
Le lundi 07 novembre 2005 à 18:34 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
Alan Cox wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 06:08:14PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.gnome.org/~alexl/sabayon-screencast.html
>Seems to be a link to a proprietary plugin object.
Yes. Flash. Someone can make Ogg theora movies. Istanbul in Fedora
Extras is useful for that
BTW I know it's not really Fedora's problem, but I don't think it's
possible to install a flash-enabled i386 Firefox on x86_64 anymore
This promises to be fun at FC5 time
Regards,
--
Nicolas Mailhot
8:27 a.m.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:22 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
BTW I know it's not really Fedora's problem, but I don't
think it's
possible to install a flash-enabled i386 Firefox on x86_64 anymore
This promises to be fun at FC5 time
Then we should make sure one of the GPL'd plugins is in FC5.
--
dwmw2
8:47 a.m.
David Woodhouse wrote:
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 15:22 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>BTW I know it's not really Fedora's problem, but I don't think it's
>possible to install a flash-enabled i386 Firefox on x86_64 anymore
>
>This promises to be fun at FC5 time
Then we should make sure one of the GPL'd plugins is in FC5.
the problem is neither swfdec nor gplflash does look good enough as
features and performance, even for those simple screencasts.
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9:59 a.m.
BTW I know it's not really Fedora's problem, but I don't
think it's
possible to install a flash-enabled i386 Firefox on x86_64 anymore
This promises to be fun at FC5 time
Hey, rpm --erase and use the installer from mozilla.org to install
a 32-bit Mozilla, then install flash. Morality aside, 32-bit mplayer
can still link Windows DLL's... My main frustration is that the
joystick ioctls changed going to 64-bit and that breaks most 32-bit games.
Other operating systems install 32-bit applications under a 64-bit
kernel. For instance, Solaris 10 installs a largely 32-bit userspace
on both Sparc64 and AMD64. This has the nice effect that the same
Solaris 10 disk installs on both x86-32 and x86-64. This is probably a
good choice for SPARC, but AMD64 gets a performance boost from the
extra registers.
64-bit Windows ships with a 32-bit IE, largely for compatibility
with Active X controls.
The proprietary nature of flash burns me up too, but it's highly
effective and widely used... Pretty much a requirement for any machine
I use for serious web browsing. The worst thing is that a lot of sites
use broken "flash detection" algorithms that assume a Linux browser will
never support flash.
10:13 a.m.
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 10:59 -0500, Paul A Houle wrote:
Other operating systems install 32-bit applications under a
64-bit
kernel. For instance, Solaris 10 installs a largely 32-bit userspace
on both Sparc64 and AMD64. This has the nice effect that the same
Solaris 10 disk installs on both x86-32 and x86-64. This is probably a
good choice for SPARC, but AMD64 gets a performance boost from the
extra registers.
Fedora does the same on ppc64 -- most userspace is ppc32.
--
dwmw2
10:18 a.m.
Le lundi 07 novembre 2005 à 10:59 -0500, Paul A Houle a écrit :
>BTW I know it's not really Fedora's problem, but I
don't think it's
>possible to install a flash-enabled i386 Firefox on x86_64 anymore
>
>This promises to be fun at FC5 time
>
>
Hey, rpm --erase and use the installer from mozilla.org to install
a 32-bit Mozilla, then install flash. Morality aside, 32-bit mplayer
can still link Windows DLL's... My main frustration is that the
joystick ioctls changed going to 64-bit and that breaks most 32-bit games.
The problem is not you can't install a 32bit firefox
The problem is the flash rpm does not like the 32 bit firefox in
rawhide.
[root@rousalka nim]# /usr/lib/flash-plugin/setup
Registering flashplayer as a XPCOM component in
/usr/lib/firefox-1.5
ERROR: /usr/lib/firefox-1.5/ failed XPCOM xpti.dat generation.
ERROR! SCRIPT SHOULD NEVER REACH HERE!
http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/linuxflash
Please send a list of files within /usr/lib/firefox-1.5 to the
linuxflash
mailing list along with your Linux distribution and what
browsers are installed. Please include any error messages
that resulted from this package.
Type the following command in order to create a file list.
find /usr/lib/firefox-1.5 > /root/filelist.txt
Setup is complete.
Again, not Fedora's problem, except for all the users that will scream
at FC5 release
Regards
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