Lots of FailsToInstall on rawhide bugs

[Orion Poplawski]

Folks -

    I'm afraid the new FailsToInstall bugs may be a bit much for me. 
Often it seems:

- There is already a FTBFS bug against the package which is the root 
cause of the FTI.
- There was a soname bump in rawide and the builds didn't manage to 
complete before the next rawhide compose.  I know, people probably 
should be using side tags, but it's the maintainers of the dependent 
packages that are being harassed.  And can't we even have a bit more 
than a day to address these.

For released branches, sure go for it (although I would still argue 
about checking for a FTBFS bug first).  But can we back off a little bit 
on rawhide?

- Orion

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Orion Poplawski
Manager of NWRA Technical Systems          720-772-5637
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Boulder, CO 80301                 https://www.nwra.com/

[Richard Shaw]

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 1:47 PM Orion Poplawski <orion(a)nwra.com&gt; wrote:

>  Folks -
>
>      I'm afraid the new FailsToInstall bugs may be a bit much for me.
>  Often it seems:
>
>  - There is already a FTBFS bug against the package which is the root
>  cause of the FTI.
>  - There was a soname bump in rawide and the builds didn't manage to
>  complete before the next rawhide compose.  I know, people probably
>  should be using side tags, but it's the maintainers of the dependent
>  packages that are being harassed.  And can't we even have a bit more
>  than a day to address these.
>
>  For released branches, sure go for it (although I would still argue
>  about checking for a FTBFS bug first).  But can we back off a little bit
>  on rawhide?
>  
Agreed, even on released branches I had some buildroot overrides because I
was actively working on update a package. I got a FTBFS bug, so I closed it
as invalid. I got a new one filed in a day or two.

Thanks,
Richard

[Orion Poplawski]

On 5/30/20 12:46 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>  Folks -
>  
>      I'm afraid the new FailsToInstall bugs may be a bit much for me. 
>  Often it seems:
>  
>  - There is already a FTBFS bug against the package which is the root 
>  cause of the FTI.
>  - There was a soname bump in rawide and the builds didn't manage to 
>  complete before the next rawhide compose.  I know, people probably 
>  should be using side tags, but it's the maintainers of the dependent 
>  packages that are being harassed.  And can't we even have a bit more 
>  than a day to address these.
>  
>  For released branches, sure go for it (although I would still argue 
>  about checking for a FTBFS bug first).  But can we back off a little bit 
>  on rawhide?
>  
>  - Orion 
I will however express thanks that the bugs are automatically closed 
when the packages can install.

-- 
Orion Poplawski
Manager of NWRA Technical Systems          720-772-5637
NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office             FAX: [phone]
3380 Mitchell Lane                       orion(a)nwra.com
Boulder, CO 80301                 https://www.nwra.com/

[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:46:18PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>  Folks -
>  
>     I'm afraid the new FailsToInstall bugs may be a bit much for me.
>  Often it seems:
>  
>  - There is already a FTBFS bug against the package which is the root
>  cause of the FTI.
>  - There was a soname bump in rawide and the builds didn't manage to
>  complete before the next rawhide compose.  I know, people probably
>  should be using side tags, but it's the maintainers of the dependent
>  packages that are being harassed.  And can't we even have a bit more
>  than a day to address these. 
Definitely the main problem I see is that these bugs are being filed
too quickly.  Sure if the package isn't installable for "a while"
[argue here over how long is reasonable] then file a bug, but I see
bugs being filed almost the instant a package becomes uninstallable
even while I'm attempting to fix it.

Rich.

>  For released branches, sure go for it (although I would still argue
>  about checking for a FTBFS bug first).  But can we back off a little
>  bit on rawhide?
>  
>  - Orion
>  
>  -- 
>  Orion Poplawski
>  Manager of NWRA Technical Systems          720-772-5637
>  NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office             FAX: [phone]
>  3380 Mitchell Lane                       orion(a)nwra.com
>  Boulder, CO 80301                 https://www.nwra.com/
>   


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