comaintainership

[Christoph Höger]

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Hi,

Tim Niemueller seems to be busy actually.
I had uploaded a patched package of nm-openvpn for #429816 to bugzilla,
but Tim is not responding (maybe on vacation without net or stuff like
that).

I don't think he would orphan that package, but we worked together on
nm-openvpn some weeks and I would like to see it in testing ASAP,
because I hate the idea  of fixed bugs lurking around.

So my idea was to become something like a comaintainer for stable
releases. But what I read from the project page sounds like you'd have
to be a maintainer of some other packages to do that.
Is that correct?
If not, what do I have to do?

regards

christoph
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[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:47:44 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote:

>  So my idea was to become something like a comaintainer for stable
>  releases. But what I read from the project page sounds like you'd have
>  to be a maintainer of some other packages to do that.
>  Is that correct? 
Probably, if the pages say that. But it has been controversial in the past.
Because it makes it unnecessarily difficult for further people to join the
project. It's an odd requirement that you need to own an arbitrary other
package or do an unknown number of reviews before you would be permitted
to become a co-maintainer.

>  If not, what do I have to do? 
IMHO: If the current maintainer cannot become your sponsor, find a different
sponsor as soon as the current maintainer is okay with you becoming a
co-maintainer. If that is against any policies, the policies ought to be
improved.

[Tim Niemueller]

Christoph Höger wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  Tim Niemueller seems to be busy actually. 
You are right.

>  I had uploaded a patched package of nm-openvpn for #429816 to
> bugzilla,
>  but Tim is not responding (maybe on vacation without net or stuff like
>  that). 
No, just trying to implement that damn SDRAM Controller in VHDL. BTW if
someone is here who actually knows how to do that please drop me a note
as private message, I'd be so happy to discuss this with someone.

>  I don't think he would orphan that package, but we worked
> together on
>  nm-openvpn some weeks and I would like to see it in testing ASAP,
>  because I hate the idea  of fixed bugs lurking around. 
I'm going to push that one now.

>  So my idea was to become something like a comaintainer for stable
I'm cool with that and help is welcome. I think I should do a CVS change
request to get you in as a co-maintainer?

cvsextras commit is enabled so as soon as you find a sponsor you can
start committing.

	Tim

-- 
    Tim Niemueller <tim(a)niemueller.de&gt;      www.niemueller.de
=================================================================
 Imagination is more important than knowledge. (Albert Einstein)

[Christoph Höger]

Hi Tim,

good to hear from you again :)

Am Donnerstag, den 07.02.2008, 18:22 +0100 schrieb Tim Niemueller:
>  Christoph Höger wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  > 
>  > Tim Niemueller seems to be busy actually.
>  
>  You are right.
>  
>  > I had uploaded a patched package of nm-openvpn for #429816 to bugzilla,
>  > but Tim is not responding (maybe on vacation without net or stuff like
>  > that).
>  
>  No, just trying to implement that damn SDRAM Controller in VHDL. BTW if
>  someone is here who actually knows how to do that please drop me a note
>  as private message, I'd be so happy to discuss this with someone.
>   
Sorry, that sounds absolutely WTF-ish to me. 

>  > I don't think he would orphan that package, but we worked
> together on
>  > nm-openvpn some weeks and I would like to see it in testing ASAP,
>  > because I hate the idea  of fixed bugs lurking around.
>  
>  I'm going to push that one now.
>   
Thank you.

>  > So my idea was to become something like a comaintainer for
> stable
>  
>  I'm cool with that and help is welcome. I think I should do a CVS change
>  request to get you in as a co-maintainer?
>  
>  cvsextras commit is enabled so as soon as you find a sponsor you can
>  start committing. 
Ok, how do I do that, start a "want a sponsor request" on this list?

>  
>  	Tim
>  
>  -- 
>      Tim Niemueller <tim(a)niemueller.de&gt;      www.niemueller.de
>  =================================================================
>   Imagination is more important than knowledge. (Albert Einstein)

[Toshio Kuratomi]

Christoph Höger wrote:
> >> So my idea was to become something like a comaintainer for
> stable
> > I'm cool with that and help is welcome. I think I should do a CVS change
> > request to get you in as a co-maintainer?
> >
> > cvsextras commit is enabled so as soon as you find a sponsor you can
> > start committing.
>  
>  Ok, how do I do that, start a "want a sponsor request" on this list? 
Hi Cristoph, I'm willing to sponsor you so that you can work on this 
package.  We don't have a procedure to do this specific thing yet 
(sponsorship of someone into cvsextras so they can commit to a single 
package) so either find me on IRC (abadger1999 on fedora-devel) or send 
me an email offlist and I'll help get you setup.

You will need to follow some of the existing process.  Specifically, get 
a FAS account and sign the CLA as outlined here: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join

I'll serve as your sponsor as outlined in the "Get Sponsored" section.

-Toshio

[Till Maas]

On Thu February 7 2008, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

>  Hi Cristoph, I'm willing to sponsor you so that you can work on
> this
>  package.  We don't have a procedure to do this specific thing yet
>  (sponsorship of someone into cvsextras so they can commit to a single
>  package) so either find me on IRC (abadger1999 on fedora-devel) or send 
Does he really need cvsextras membership? Is it not enough to apply for commit 
access in PKGDB? I do not know, but with this fine-grained policy settings in 
PKGDB, this seems to be something that should be possible or be easily 
implemented, e.g. require cvsextras for maintainership of a package and 
cla_done for commit access.

Regards,
Till

[Toshio Kuratomi]

Till Maas wrote:
>  On Thu February 7 2008, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>  
> > Hi Cristoph, I'm willing to sponsor you so that you can work on this
> > package.  We don't have a procedure to do this specific thing yet
> > (sponsorship of someone into cvsextras so they can commit to a single
> > package) so either find me on IRC (abadger1999 on fedora-devel) or send
>  
>  Does he really need cvsextras membership?  
Yes.
>  Is it not enough to apply for commit 
>  access in PKGDB? I do not know, but with this fine-grained policy settings in 
>  PKGDB, this seems to be something that should be possible or be easily 
>  implemented, e.g. require cvsextras for maintainership of a package and 
>  cla_done for commit access.
>   
We would like it to be.  Although probably with a different group from 
cla_done filling the "commit to a single package" role.  If you'd like 
to work on it, get in touch with me.  We need to come up with a plan to 
make changes to the filesystem permissions and cvs acls system we're 
using with the cvs repository in order to make this work.

-Toshio