PackageMaintainers/RetiredPackages still needed (was: Update of "PackageMaintainers/RetiredPackages" by [...])

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

Hi all!

On 28.01.2008 17:38, fedorawiki-noreply(a)fedoraproject.org wrote:
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Just saw one of those again. Made me wonder: do we still need this page?
 Orphaned packages are tracked in the package db and CVS should have a
dead.package file explaining why a package was retired. Isn't that enough?

I suppose parts of the wiki page are out of date anyway; that in my
Fedora-experience always happens with manually maintained pages like
this one. Seems to be the case here as well:

>  The comment on the change is:
>  Removed kgtk - should not be retired 
Cu
knurd

[Till Maas]

On Mon January 28 2008, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:

>  Just saw one of those again. Made me wonder: do we still need this
> page?
>   Orphaned packages are tracked in the package db and CVS should have a
>  dead.package file explaining why a package was retired. Isn't that enough? 
Imho the information should be in the Fedora Package Database, but I do not 
know how it can get in there, e.g. there is only one package listed as 
retired at
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/retired
and there are also packages listed as orpaned, that are actually retired:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/thinkpad-kmod (this is 
required according to the wiki).

There is also a ticket about this at hosted:
https://fedorahosted.org/packagedb/ticket/54

So just deleting the wiki page currently seems not to be a good decision, 
better wait till the information can be fed into the package database.

Regards,
Till

[Kevin Kofler]

Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora <at> leemhuis.info> writes:
>  > The comment on the change is:
>  > Removed kgtk - should not be retired 
kgtk was actually retired by mistake (it doesn't depend on KWin 3, only 
kdelibs3, which is still available), I discussed this with the maintainer and 
he resurrected it. So this is not an issue with being "out of date", just a 
corrected mistake.

        Kevin Kofler

[Francois Aucamp]

On Tuesday 29 January 2008 01:50:56 am Kevin Kofler wrote:
>  Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora <at> leemhuis.info> writes:
>  > > The comment on the change is:
>  > > Removed kgtk - should not be retired
>
>  kgtk was actually retired by mistake (it doesn't depend on KWin 3, only
>  kdelibs3, which is still available), I discussed this with the maintainer
>  and he resurrected it. So this is not an issue with being "out of date",
>  just a corrected mistake.
>
>          Kevin Kofler 
In fact, I've updated kgtk to the latest version which now builds against 
kdelibs4 for f9.

-Francois