On Wed, 2021-12-01 at 09:29 -0600, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
On 11/29/21 1:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> = Users are administrators by default in the installer GUI =
> == Summary ==
> The Anaconda installer GUI will have the administrative rights
> checkbox on the User screen ticked by default.
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:Vladimirslavik| Vladimir Slavik]]
> * Email: vslavik(a)redhat.com
> == Detailed Description ==
> Currently, the Anaconda installer GUI presents an unticked checkbox
> "Make this user administrator" on the user setup screen by default.
> This means users have to discover the control, understand its
> and consciously decide to change the value from the default one.
I find this wording confusing, and I've been using Linux for at least
years now. I think if we're making changes to reduce user confusion
may want to change the wording as well?
Perhaps a better wording would be "Grant user administrator
(allow sudo)"? Something to make it clear the resulting user isn't
but can act as root.
I think being able to use sudo is not the only user visible
IIRC it will also ask for your password to unlock some configuration
screens or to confirm some forms of package installation/updates.
So non-CLI Fedora users might not actually know what "sudo" means,
while they might understand the administrator privileges concept.
I had always assumed the "Make this user administrator" checkbox
the created user would effectively _be_ root, just with a different
AFAIK it always added the user to the wheel group. AFAIK there is just
one special root account and you can't change its username.
After playing with yesterday's KDE rawhide compose, I boldly decided
check the box. Apparently what it really means is the created user is
member of the wheel group and can use sudo. This also appears to
the root user spoke in Anaconda.
AFAIK it is not disabled - just not required to be
installation can be started. It should still be possible to configure
both user & root accounts from the Anaconda GUI - we just want to
emphasize user with admin privileges as the default.
The resulting install fixes one of my
biggest gripes with the KDE spin. So I say the checking it by default
part of the change proposal is great! Why was I not checking this all
My guess is historic inertia. ;-)
As mentioned in the change proposal this basically matches what
happens with the user gnome-initial-setup creates so it's a
win as well.
Yep, that was one of the motivations/validations for this change.
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