Bootup delays

[Bart Vanbrabant]

Hello,

> From kernel 1432 and 1433 in rawhide my boot process has some serious
delays where my system doesn't seem to do anything and doesn't respond.
This also happens when logining in and starting gnome.
I made a bootchart from the 1426 kernel which runs fine and one form
1433 which suffers from those delays.
http://files.zoeloelip.be/1426.png
http://files.zoeloelip.be/1433.png


Bart

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[Bill Nottingham]

Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
>  >From kernel 1432 and 1433 in rawhide my boot process has some
> serious
>  delays where my system doesn't seem to do anything and doesn't respond.
>  This also happens when logining in and starting gnome.
>  I made a bootchart from the 1426 kernel which runs fine and one form
>  1433 which suffers from those delays.
>  http://files.zoeloelip.be/1426.png
>  http://files.zoeloelip.be/1433.png 
Looks like there's a 30 second process of just insmod, unless it's grouping
them. If you could track down what driver is being silly, that could
help a lot.

Bill

[Bart Vanbrabant]

Bill Nottingham wrote:

> Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
>   
>
> >>From kernel 1432 and 1433 in rawhide my boot process has some serious
> >delays where my system doesn't seem to do anything and doesn't respond.
> >This also happens when logining in and starting gnome.
> >I made a bootchart from the 1426 kernel which runs fine and one form
> >1433 which suffers from those delays.
> >http://files.zoeloelip.be/1426.png
> >http://files.zoeloelip.be/1433.png
> >    
> >
>
> Looks like there's a 30 second process of just insmod, unless it's grouping
> them. If you could track down what driver is being silly, that could
> help a lot.
>
> Bill
>
>   
>  
Is there an easy way to do this? Or just trying? Maybe you see some
drivers that has changed which causes this problem, here's me lsmod output:
Module                  Size  Used by
parport_pc             28933  1
lp                     13001  0
parport                40713  2 parport_pc,lp
sunrpc                170756  1
powernow_k8            15945  0
dm_mod                 58077  0
video                  15941  0
button                  6609  0
battery                 9413  0
asus_acpi              11093  0
ac                      4805  0
wacom                  13505  0
ipv6                  268033  10
ohci1394               41353  0
ieee1394              305209  1 ohci1394
yenta_socket           22989  0
rsrc_nonstatic         13249  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core            42857  2 yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
ohci_hcd               26721  0
ehci_hcd               40653  0
i2c_nforce2             7233  0
i2c_core               21185  1 i2c_nforce2
snd_intel8x0m          18821  0
shpchp                 94277  0
snd_intel8x0           34817  1
snd_ac97_codec         79165  2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0
snd_seq_dummy           3653  0
snd_seq_oss            37057  0
snd_seq_midi_event      8256  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                62289  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          8781  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            51313  0
snd_mixer_oss          17857  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                99017  4
snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pc m_oss
snd_timer              33605  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    56901  12
snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_s
eq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore              10913  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         10313  3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
sk98lin               176801  0
skge                   38737  0
joydev                  9601  0
xfs                   592241  2
exportfs                8897  1 xfs
sata_nv                 9669  0
libata                 47817  1 sata_nv
sd_mod                 20929  0
scsi_mod              147369  2 libata,sd_mod

Bart

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[Bill Nottingham]

Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
>  I finally found the problem. It's caused by the battery acpi
> module. I
>  searched for insmod in rc.sysinit and there is only one part that uses
>  insmod instead of modprobe. When I change this into modprobe my system
>  boots normal and haldeamon starts. But the battery-applet doesn't work.
>  I tried to do /sbin/insmod battery.ko and it takes a long time to finish.
>  Hal crashes when I boot with a new kernel. I now move the battery.ko module out the acpi
> directory, this way I can boot in a normal way but the battery applet doesn't work of
> course.
>  
>  What should I do now? 
You can file a kernel bug about the battery driver, although it's probably
related to something funky in your BIOS as well.

Bill

[Dave Jones]

On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 10:46:03AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>  Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
>  > I finally found the problem. It's caused by the battery acpi module. I
>  > searched for insmod in rc.sysinit and there is only one part that uses
>  > insmod instead of modprobe. When I change this into modprobe my system
>  > boots normal and haldeamon starts. But the battery-applet doesn't work.
>  > I tried to do /sbin/insmod battery.ko and it takes a long time to finish.
>  > Hal crashes when I boot with a new kernel. I now move the battery.ko module out the
> acpi directory, this way I can boot in a normal way but the battery applet doesn't
> work of course.
>  > 
>  > What should I do now?
>  
>  You can file a kernel bug about the battery driver, although it's probably
>  related to something funky in your BIOS as well. 
There are a number of kernel bugs open on the acpi battery stuff
already. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=165150

Chances are this is a dupe of one of them.

		Dave

[Bart Vanbrabant]

Bill Nottingham wrote:

> Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
>   
>
> >>From kernel 1432 and 1433 in rawhide my boot process has some serious
> >delays where my system doesn't seem to do anything and doesn't respond.
> >This also happens when logining in and starting gnome.
> >I made a bootchart from the 1426 kernel which runs fine and one form
> >1433 which suffers from those delays.
> >http://files.zoeloelip.be/1426.png
> >http://files.zoeloelip.be/1433.png
> >    
> >
>
> Looks like there's a 30 second process of just insmod, unless it's grouping
> them. If you could track down what driver is being silly, that could
> help a lot.
>
> Bill
>
>   
>  
Hello,

I finally found the problem. It's caused by the battery acpi module. I
searched for insmod in rc.sysinit and there is only one part that uses
insmod instead of modprobe. When I change this into modprobe my system
boots normal and haldeamon starts. But the battery-applet doesn't work.
I tried to do /sbin/insmod battery.ko and it takes a long time to finish.
Hal crashes when I boot with a new kernel. I now move the battery.ko module out the acpi
directory, this way I can boot in a normal way but the battery applet doesn't work of
course.

What should I do now?

Cheers,

Bart

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[Bart Vanbrabant]

Dave Jones wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 10:46:03AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>  > Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
>  > > I finally found the problem. It's caused by the battery acpi module. I
>  > > searched for insmod in rc.sysinit and there is only one part that uses
>  > > insmod instead of modprobe. When I change this into modprobe my system
>  > > boots normal and haldeamon starts. But the battery-applet doesn't work.
>  > > I tried to do /sbin/insmod battery.ko and it takes a long time to finish.
>  > > Hal crashes when I boot with a new kernel. I now move the battery.ko module out
> the acpi directory, this way I can boot in a normal way but the battery applet doesn't
> work of course.
>  > > 
>  > > What should I do now?
>  > 
>  > You can file a kernel bug about the battery driver, although it's probably
>  > related to something funky in your BIOS as well.
>
> There are a number of kernel bugs open on the acpi battery stuff
> already. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=165150
>
> Chances are this is a dupe of one of them.
>
> 		Dave
>
>   
>  
Ok. But must of them are quite old. Mine only appeared after kernel 1426
which I think is post 2.6.13-rc2. I don't know how to search for changes
in the kernel source. I'm not familiar with git. I search the kernel
changelog but I can't find anything about the battery module.
If you need more information, just let me know.

Bart

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[Bart Vanbrabant]

Bart Vanbrabant wrote:

> Dave Jones wrote:
>
>   
>
> >On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 10:46:03AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >    
> >
> >>Bart Vanbrabant (bart.vanbrabant(a)zoeloelip.be) said: 
> >>      
> >>
> >>>I finally found the problem. It's caused by the battery acpi module. I
> >>>searched for insmod in rc.sysinit and there is only one part that uses
> >>>insmod instead of modprobe. When I change this into modprobe my system
> >>>boots normal and haldeamon starts. But the battery-applet doesn't work.
> >>>I tried to do /sbin/insmod battery.ko and it takes a long time to finish.
> >>>Hal crashes when I boot with a new kernel. I now move the battery.ko module
> out the acpi directory, this way I can boot in a normal way but the battery applet
> doesn't work of course.
> >>>
> >>>What should I do now?
> >>>        
> >>>
> >>You can file a kernel bug about the battery driver, although it's probably
> >>related to something funky in your BIOS as well.
> >>      
> >>
> >There are a number of kernel bugs open on the acpi battery stuff
> >already. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=165150
> >
> >Chances are this is a dupe of one of them.
> >
> >		Dave
> >
> > 
> >
> >    
> >
> Ok. But must of them are quite old. Mine only appeared after kernel 1426
> which I think is post 2.6.13-rc2. I don't know how to search for changes
> in the kernel source. I'm not familiar with git. I search the kernel
> changelog but I can't find anything about the battery module.
> If you need more information, just let me know.
>
> Bart
>
>   
>  
rc5-git3 solved the problem. The 1451 version from rawhide fixed it.
Thanks for the help

Bart

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