FutureFeature - Split KDE packages

Maybe a few days before the official release of Fedora 8 isn't the right time to
discuss this matter but I'll give it a try.

I know that Fedora is a Gnome based distribution but I prefer using KDE instead. However
one thing that I don't like about KDE is that it installs in your system many programs
that you don't really need or want. Of course this happens because that's how KDE
packages come from kde.org I believe e.g. kdemultimedia, kdenetwork

I think it would be a good idea to split those big packges into smaller/seperate ones.
This way users will be able to install only the utilities they want. To understand better
what I mean take a look at the following links from archlinux and gentoo.

http://kdemod.ath.cx/features.html
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml

One more thing is that KDE menus have the same programs in more than one categories. Not a
very good way to organize your pc. There are a lot of entries that show up in the
Administration, System, and Settings menus.

I don't know how difficult or easy would be to spli the kde packages but I believe it
would be a good idea. Maybe this could be done if not for KDE3 for KDE4 which is a few
months away.

What do you think?

Regards,
axel
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[Kevin Kofler]

axel @ieee.org <axelinux <at> hotmail.com> writes:
>  Maybe a few days before the official release of Fedora 8 isn't
> the right time
>  to discuss this matter but I'll give it a try. 
Obviously new features won't make it into F8, they might be considered for F9 
though.

>  I know that Fedora is a Gnome based distribution but I prefer using
> KDE
>  instead. 
That's why there's a KDE SIG (Special Interest Group). :-)

>  I think it would be a good idea to split those big packges into
>  smaller/seperate ones. This way users will be able to install only the
>  utilities they want. 
This has come up in our KDE SIG IRC meetings already, and I'm afraid the 
consensus was that it is not desirable, it would be a PITA to maintain. What we 
did is split the less used apps of some components into -extras subpackages 
which are not installed on the live CD.

>  One more thing is that KDE menus have the same programs in more than
> one
>  categories. Not a very good way to organize your pc. There are a lot of
>  entries that show up in the Administration, System, and Settings menus. 
Those are bugs in the respective programs (their menu entries have too many 
categories), we have filed bugs for all those we know about. If you notice a 
duplicate, please first check RH Bugzilla to see if it has already been filed, 
if not file a bug there.

        Kevin Kofler

>  > I know that Fedora is a Gnome based distribution but I prefer
> using KDE
>  > instead.
>  
>  That's why there's a KDE SIG (Special Interest Group). :-) 
Sorry, didn't know that. :)
 
>  > I think it would be a good idea to split those big packges into
>  > smaller/seperate ones. This way users will be able to install only the
>  > utilities they want.
>  
>  This has come up in our KDE SIG IRC meetings already, and I'm afraid the 
>  consensus was that it is not desirable, it would be a PITA to maintain. What we 
>  did is split the less used apps of some components into -extras subpackages 
>  which are not installed on the live CD. 
Ok, I understand.
 
>  > One more thing is that KDE menus have the same programs in more
> than one
>  > categories. Not a very good way to organize your pc. There are a lot of
>  > entries that show up in the Administration, System, and Settings menus.
>  
>  Those are bugs in the respective programs (their menu entries have too many 
>  categories), we have filed bugs for all those we know about. If you notice a 
>  duplicate, please first check RH Bugzilla to see if it has already been filed, 
>  if not file a bug there. 
I will take a look on that also. Thanks.

axel

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[Arthur Pemberton]

On 11/1/07, axel @ieee.org <axelinux(a)hotmail.com&gt; wrote:
>   > > I know that Fedora is a Gnome based distribution but I prefer using KDE
>  > > instead.
>  >
>  > That's why there's a KDE SIG (Special Interest Group). :-)
>
>  Sorry, didn't know that. :) 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE

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