orphan/retire gradle

[gil]

hi
i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no longer 
shipped in Fedora)
or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702

regards
gil

[Pavel Alexeev]

Hi.
I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
Have you tried update to gradle 1.9? Have it same conflicts?

12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
>  hi
>  i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
>  there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
>  incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
>  longer shipped in Fedora)
>  or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
>
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
>
>  regards
>  gil
>
>
>
>

[Marek Goldmann]

Hi Pavel,

Please take a look at the java-devel archives, where it was discussed:

	https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2013-October/004972....

--Marek

On 25.11.2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev wrote:
>  Hi.
>  I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
>  Have you tried update to gradle 1.9? Have it same conflicts?
>
>  12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> > hi
> > i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> > there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> > incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
> > longer shipped in Fedora)
> > or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >
> > regards
> > gil
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[gil]

Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
hi
>  Hi.
>  I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
>  Have you tried update to gradle 1.9? 
no
>  Have it same conflicts?
>  
yes,
see
org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable in 
fedora) ship asm3 classes
org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to newer 
eclipse aether-ant-tasks
org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse aether
regards
gil
>  12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> > hi
> > i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> > there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> > incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
> > longer shipped in Fedora)
> > or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >
> > regards
> > gil
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[gil]

Il 25/11/2013 14:31, puntogil(a)libero.it ha scritto:
>  Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  hi
> > Hi.
> > I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
> > Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
>  no
> > Have it same conflicts?
> >
>  yes,
>  see 
>  https://github.com/gradle/gradle/blob/REL_1.9/gradle/dependencies.gradle
>  org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable 
>  in fedora) ship asm3 classes
>  org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to 
>  newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
>  org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse 
>  aether
>  regards
>  gil
> > 12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >> hi
> >> i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> >> there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> >> incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
> >> longer shipped in Fedora)
> >> or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >>
> >> regards
> >> gil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Pavel Alexeev]

Hi,

25.11.2013 17:31, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
>  Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  hi
> > Hi.
> > I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
> > Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
>  no
> > Have it same conflicts?
> >
>  yes,
>  see
>  org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable
>  in fedora) ship asm3 classes
>  org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to
>  newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
>  org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse
>  aether
>  regards
>  gil 
Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
And thanks for the answers.
> > 12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >> hi
> >> i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> >> there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> >> incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
> >> longer shipped in Fedora)
> >> or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >>
> >> regards
> >> gil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[gil]

Il 25/11/2013 17:02, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  Hi,
>
>  25.11.2013 17:31, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> > Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> > hi
> >> Hi.
> >> I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
> >> Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
> > no
> >> Have it same conflicts?
> >>
> > yes,
> > see
> > org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable 
> > in fedora) ship asm3 classes
> > org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to 
> > newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
> > org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer eclipse 
> > aether
> > regards
> > gil
>  Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
>  And thanks for the answers. 
yes, but without success
> >> 12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >>> hi
> >>> i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> >>> there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> >>> incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
> >>> longer shipped in Fedora)
> >>> or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >>>
> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>> gil
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Pavel Alexeev]

25.11.2013 20:32, puntogil(a)libero.it пишет:
>  Il 25/11/2013 17:02, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 25.11.2013 17:31, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >> Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >> hi
> >>> Hi.
> >>> I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
> >>> Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
> >> no
> >>> Have it same conflicts?
> >>>
> >> yes,
> >> see
> >> org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not importable
> >> in fedora) ship asm3 classes
> >> org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to
> >> newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
> >> org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer
> >> eclipse aether
> >> regards
> >> gil
> > Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
> > And thanks for the answers.
>  yes, but without success 
Sad tor heard.
How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
> >>> 12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >>>> hi
> >>>> i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> >>>> there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> >>>> incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no
> >>>> longer shipped in Fedora)
> >>>> or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >>>>
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> >>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >>>>
> >>>> regards
> >>>> gil
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[gil]

Il 25/11/2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  25.11.2013 20:32, puntogil(a)libero.it пишет:
> > Il 25/11/2013 17:02, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 25.11.2013 17:31, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >>> Il 25/11/2013 13:55, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >>> hi
> >>>> Hi.
> >>>> I'm as groovy user want see it in Fedora. And now try build it.
> >>>> Have you tried update to gradle 1.9?
> >>> no
> >>>> Have it same conflicts?
> >>>>
> >>> yes,
> >>> see
> >>> org.codehaus.groovy:groovy-all:1.8.x  (not available, not 
> >>> importable in fedora) ship asm3 classes
> >>> org.apache.maven:maven-ant-tasks:2.1.3 unusable need to switch to 
> >>> newer eclipse aether-ant-tasks
> >>> org.sonatype.aether:aether-*:1.13.1 , need to switch to newer 
> >>> eclipse aether
> >>> regards
> >>> gil
> >> Did you tried contact upstream to resolve such issues?
> >> And thanks for the answers.
> > yes, but without success
>  Sad tor heard.
>  How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon? 
i don't
know. sorry
> >>>> 12.11.2013 19:58, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >>>>> hi
> >>>>> i decide to remove gradle form Fedora
> >>>>> there are too many problems actually for maintain this package
> >>>>> incompatible dependencies (gradle may require package versions no 
> >>>>> longer shipped in Fedora)
> >>>>> or  for e.g. conflicts with objectweb-asm 3.3.1 and 4.1 libraries
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=976330
> >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958008
> >>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985702
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards
> >>>>> gil
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Mikolaj Izdebski]

W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
>  How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired
> soon? 
No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)

-- 
Mikolaj Izdebski
IRC: mizdebsk

[Pavel Alexeev]

25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
>  W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
> > How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
>  No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
>  Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)
>  
Thanks, Mikolaj.
But IIRC groovy >= 2.0 switched to gradle build only? Have not you
either plans to update it?

[gil]

Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> > W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
> >> How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
> > No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
> > Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)
> >
>  Thanks, Mikolaj.
>  But IIRC groovy >= 2.0 switched to gradle build only? 
yes
>  Have not you
>  either plans to update it?
>  
dont forget this problem
groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
groovy-all 2.x asm4
gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4

[Pavel Alexeev]

26.11.2013 15:06, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
>  Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> > 25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >> W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
> >>> How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
> >> No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
> >> Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)
> >>
> > Thanks, Mikolaj.
> > But IIRC groovy >= 2.0 switched to gradle build only?
>  yes
> > Have not you
> > either plans to update it?
> >
>  dont forget this problem
>  groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
>  groovy-all 2.x asm4
>  gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4
>  
Then we have circle? That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
mail list previously)? So, no chance update both without exception use
binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
(bootstrap)?

[gil]

Il 26/11/2013 16:42, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  26.11.2013 15:06, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> > Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >> 25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >>> W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
> >>>> How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired soon?
> >>> No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
> >>> Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)
> >>>
> >> Thanks, Mikolaj.
> >> But IIRC groovy >= 2.0 switched to gradle build only?
> > yes
> >> Have not you
> >> either plans to update it?
> >>
> > dont forget this problem
> > groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
> > groovy-all 2.x asm4
> > gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4
> >
>  Then we have circle? 
yes
>  That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
>  mail list previously)? 
yes, but if you do the same type of question the answer is
always the same
>  So, no chance update both without exception use
>  binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
>  (bootstrap)? 
what would change? ... own nothing ...
gradle, use at runtime those libraries, and don't work with our ...

[Pavel Alexeev]

26.11.2013 20:00, puntogil(a)libero.it пишет:
>  Il 26/11/2013 16:42, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> > 26.11.2013 15:06, puntogil(a)libero.it wrote:
> >> Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >>> 25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >>>> W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
> >>>>> How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired
> soon?
> >>>> No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either with
> >>>> Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks, Mikolaj.
> >>> But IIRC groovy >= 2.0 switched to gradle build only?
> >> yes
> >>> Have not you
> >>> either plans to update it?
> >>>
> >> dont forget this problem
> >> groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
> >> groovy-all 2.x asm4
> >> gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4
> >>
> > Then we have circle? 
>  yes
> > That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
> > mail list previously)? 
>  yes, but if you do the same type of question the answer is always the same
> > So, no chance update both without exception use
> > binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
> > (bootstrap)?
>
>  what would change? ... own nothing ...
>  gradle, use at runtime those libraries, and don't work with our ...
>  
Ok, sorry for the stupid questions. May be it because I can't believe in it.
One more question. Did you see how other distributions handle it?
Debian have groovy 2.1.0 (
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/groovy ) and gradle 1.4 (
http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=gradle )
>

[gil]

Il 26/11/2013 20:57, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
>  26.11.2013 20:00, puntogil(a)libero.it пишет:
> > Il 26/11/2013 16:42, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >> 26.11.2013 15:06,[e-mail]  wrote:
> >>> Il 26/11/2013 11:34, Pavel Alexeev ha scritto:
> >>>> 25.11.2013 22:45, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >>>>> W dniu 25.11.2013 18:16, Pavel Alexeev pisze:
> >>>>>> How groovy will be in Fedora? Is it mean it also will be retired
> soon?
> >>>>> No, there are no plans of retiring groovy.  (Groovy can be either
> with
> >>>>> Ant or Gradle.  Fedora uses the first option.)
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thanks, Mikolaj.
> >>>> But IIRC groovy >= 2.0 switched to gradle build only?
> >>> yes
> >>>> Have not you
> >>>> either plans to update it?
> >>>>
> >>> dont forget this problem
> >>> groovy-all 1.8.x asm3
> >>> groovy-all 2.x asm4
> >>> gradle use groovy-all 1.8.x ( with asm3) and asm4
> >>>
> >> Then we have circle?
> > yes
> >> That problem what you discussing before (pointed in
> >> mail list previously)?
> > yes, but if you do the same type of question the answer is always the 
> > same
> >> So, no chance update both without exception use
> >> binary bundled version or fully maintain alternative build system
> >> (bootstrap)?
> >
> > what would change? ... own nothing ...
> > gradle, use at runtime those libraries, and don't work with our ...
> >
>  Ok, sorry for the stupid questions. May be it because I can't believe 
>  in it. 
questions are never stupid,
>  One more question. Did you see how other distributions handle it?
>  Debian have groovy 2.1.0 ( 
>  http://packages.debian.org/experimental/groovy ) and gradle 1.4 ( 
>  http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=gradle ) 
Debian
packaging guideline allow some things,  such as, for e.g., 
groovy-all (with its bundled libraries asm3 commons-cli antlr 2.x) or 
maven-ant-tasks (with its bundled libraries ...) or maven 2.x or 
plexus-container-default 1.0-xxx, etc etc.
and i dont know if the experimental Debian branch is usable with gradle 
... but i think no
about this topic it has been discussed for a long time, and now this 
conversation is only a repetition.
and repeating the same things i "broke the boxes", then do not take it amiss
regards
again my apologized
> >
> >
> >
>