[Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines.

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The Filesystem Layout section of the guidelines was simplified and
outdated information was removed.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Filesystem_Layout
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/623

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The outdated section restricting dependencies between /bin and /usr has
been removed.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Binaries_in_.2Fbin_an...
    (now deleted)
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/624

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A set of guidelines for GAP packages has been added.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:GAP
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/625

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A section has been added to the guidelines which documents the
procedure for deviation from those guidelines. Work will now begin to
clarify the language in existing guidelines into the usual SHOULD and
MUST categories to help reduce confusion surrounding the "strength" of
guidelines. 

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#General_Exception_Policy
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/633

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Due to the addition of RPM file triggers, the scriptlet guidelines have
been amended to indicate that some scriptlets should not be used in
F24+. Specifically: gsettings schemas, gdk-pixbuf loaders, gtk+ 3
modules, gio modules and mimeinfo.  Also, update-desktop-database should
not be used as of Fedora 25.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Scriptlets
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/636

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The review process document has been amended to note possible
exceptions, and to indicate that review is not needed in certain
situations where a different version of an existing package is being
added.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ReviewGuidelines#Package_Review_...
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/637

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Corrected the suggest source URL for tarballs hosted on pypi to use
https://files.pythonhosted.org

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#Example_common_spec_file
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL#Python_Packages_.28pyp...
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/640

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The running of system daemons as the "nobody" user has been forbidden.

* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Users_and_Groups
* https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/642
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[Andrea Musuruane]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs(a)math.uh.edu&gt;
wrote:

>  Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines.
>
>  -----
>
>  The Filesystem Layout section of the guidelines was simplified and
>  outdated information was removed.
>
>  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
>  * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Filesystem_Layout
>  * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/623 

The links to FHS specs are all outdated. The current one is
https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/lsb/fhs

Moreover I still read "The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard does not include
any provision for libexecdir, " which is not accurate:
http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s07.html

Bye,

Andrea

[Andrea Musuruane]

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Andrea Musuruane <musuruan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs(a)math.uh.edu&gt;
>  wrote:
> >
> > Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines.
> >
> > -----
> >
> > The Filesystem Layout section of the guidelines was simplified and
> > outdated information was removed.
> >
> > * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
> > * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Filesystem_Layout
> > * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/623
>
>
>  The links to FHS specs are all outdated. The current one is
>  https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/lsb/fhs
>
>  Moreover I still read "The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard does not include
>  any provision for libexecdir, " which is not accurate:
>  http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s07.html 
I still read the same issues. The page is protected and it cannot be
freely edited.

Bye,

Andrea

[Pavel Raiskup]

On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:27:44 PM CEST Andrea Musuruane wrote:
>  On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Andrea Musuruane
> <musuruan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs(a)math.uh.edu&gt;
>  > wrote:
>  >>
>  >> Here are the recent changes to the packaging guidelines.
>  >>
>  >> -----
>  >>
>  >> The Filesystem Layout section of the guidelines was simplified and
>  >> outdated information was removed.
>  >>
>  >> * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines
>  >> * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Filesystem_Layout
>  >> * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/623
>  >
>  >
>  > The links to FHS specs are all outdated. The current one is
>  > https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/lsb/fhs
>  >
>  > Moreover I still read "The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard does not include
>  > any provision for libexecdir, " which is not accurate:
>  > http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s07.html
>  
>  I still read the same issues. The page is protected and it cannot be
>  freely edited. 
FWIW, I don't think the FHS has been fixed correctly WRT libexecdir, even
though it points to GNU Coding Standards (which is equivalent to how Fedora
interprets libexec):

FHS [1] says:

  /usr/libexec includes internal binaries that are not intended to be
  executed directly by users or shell scripts. ...

.. why there is the part ".. or shell scripts?".  How a shell script differs
from other (binary) programs?

GNU standards [2] say "The directory for installing executable
programs to be run by other programs rather than by users.".

[1] http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s07.html
[2] https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Directory-Variables.html

Pavel