Introduction/looking for a sponsorship

[Robert-André Mauchin]

Hello,

My name is Robert-André and I'm looking to become a packager for Fedora.

I'm 33 years-old Frenchman. I first tried GNU/Linux in the late 90 with Debian and
what was 
then Mandrake. Back then with no Internet, I remember It was tough to get set up and find

help. After a Windows period, I got back to Linux in 2005 with Ubuntu's Hoary Hedgehog

release. It was simple, almost everything worked out of the box, and I could work without
having to « look under the hood » to make it work.

Following what I thought was questionable relations between Ubuntu and upstreams, and
their 
choices to reinvent the wheel, i decided look for alternative distributions. First Debian
which 
was close to what I've been using, and then Fedora. I had some reservation about
Fedora 
because last time I had tried one (Fedora 16, Verne), the package manager was quite slow 
compared to apt-get. And this meant a lot to relearn. But I was quickly conquered by its
simplicity
and its « freshness ». And then dnf came around, it was fast and easy to use, and I
haven't left
Fedora since then.

Thanks to the French fedora-fr wiki which explains step-by-step how to make your own
package,
 I've recently started to package my own things using the COPR service:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/eclipseo/
And now I'm looking to get them into Fedora. I've learned Fedora Packaging
Guidelines, and how
to use the various tool like rpmbuild, fedpkg, mock, Koji…

Here's a few of the projects I want to include:
 - rclone: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1473314 This Go app allows you to
sync your
files among different Cloud services. I had to unbundled it so it spawned a dozen of new
packages
to build (see the dependencies).
 - qdirstat: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476201 It's an app that
allow you to track
how your disk space is used, like k4dirstart, but written in Qt5.
 - libva-intel-hydrid-driver https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1475962 This
driver enables
video hardware acceleration for VP9 decoding on Skylake/Kabylake platforms. (dependency
cmrt: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1475961)

Since I proposed my packages, I've also started to do other reviews:
 - libcbor: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1474694
 - clustersos: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476438
 - danmaQ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1471806
 - xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476489
 - libsemigroups: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476085
 - tpm2-abrmd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1475228

So if you like my work so far, please consider sponsoring me for the packaging team o/

Thank you.

Robert-André
FAS username: eclipseo

[Ben Rosser]

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Robert-André Mauchin
<eclipseo(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Hello,
>
>  My name is Robert-André and I'm looking to become a packager for Fedora. 
[...]
>  So if you like my work so far, please consider sponsoring me for the packaging team o/
>
>  Thank you.
>
>  Robert-André
>  FAS username: eclipseo 
Welcome to Fedora!

This is interesting timing; a few days ago I found myself looking for
the Perl version of "rename" and installed your copr repository for
the script (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/eclipseo/prename/).

If you are interested in submitting prename to the review queue in
addition to your other packages, I would be happy to take the review.

I see you've already been sponsored, which is great!

Ben Rosser

[Bob Mauchin]

I intend to package it for Fedora but I have no license file. I have
contacted the developer awhile ago and I'm still waiting for an answer.
It's based on a Larry Wall script under Perl license so there should not be
any issue.
Also I don't know if it's compatible with the guidelines but I renamed the
package: the original binary is named rename but was conflicting with GNU
rename so I patched the source to add a "p" prefix. I remember reading in
the guidelines that prefixing is an option in case of conflict but I'm not
sure it is the approved way.

Best regards,

Robert-André

Le 7 août 2017 01:42, "Ben Rosser" <rosser.bjr(a)gmail.com&gt; a écrit :

>  On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Robert-André Mauchin
>  <eclipseo(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > My name is Robert-André and I'm looking to become a packager for Fedora.
>  [...]
>  >
>  > So if you like my work so far, please consider sponsoring me for the
>  packaging team o/
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  >
>  > Robert-André
>  > FAS username: eclipseo
>
>  Welcome to Fedora!
>
>  This is interesting timing; a few days ago I found myself looking for
>  the Perl version of "rename" and installed your copr repository for
>  the script (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/eclipseo/prename/).
>
>  If you are interested in submitting prename to the review queue in
>  addition to your other packages, I would be happy to take the review.
>
>  I see you've already been sponsored, which is great!
>
>  Ben Rosser
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[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 03:54:42AM +0200, Bob Mauchin wrote:
>  I intend to package it for Fedora but I have no license file. I have
>  contacted the developer awhile ago and I'm still waiting for an answer.
>  It's based on a Larry Wall script under Perl license so there should not be
>  any issue. 
Do the individual source files contain license information? Or is it
otherwise documented? See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:LicensingGuidelines#License_Text
for guidance on this.


>  Also I don't know if it's compatible with the guidelines but
> I renamed the
>  package: the original binary is named rename but was conflicting with GNU
>  rename so I patched the source to add a "p" prefix. I remember reading in
>  the guidelines that prefixing is an option in case of conflict but I'm not
>  sure it is the approved way. 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts#Binary_Name_Conflicts

Does this package exist in other distros? Doing what they do is usually
a good choice. Most ideally, you convince the upstream to switch to a
compatible name.

-- 
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Fedora Project Leader

[Bob Mauchin]

Le 7 août 2017 04:04, "Matthew Miller" <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; a écrit
:


Do the individual source files contain license information? Or is it
otherwise documented? See
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:LicensingGuidelines#License_Text
for guidance on this.


It is absolutely not documented anywhere, that's why I'm trying  to contact
the developer.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Conflicts#Binary_Name_Conflicts

Does this package exist in other distros? Doing what they do is usually
a good choice. Most ideally, you convince the upstream to switch to a
compatible name.


I've got the idea for the name from Arch, but Arch packages the Debian
rename under this name. Arch also packages this rename but chose to name it
perl-rename.
It's doubtful upstream would agree on a name change, they're the first
result on CPAN for "rename" and the package has not been touched for years.

[Ben Rosser]

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  Does this package exist in other distros? Doing what they do is
> usually
>  a good choice. Most ideally, you convince the upstream to switch to a
>  compatible name. 
Apparently, the way this is done in Debian [1] is that the program is
installed as /usr/bin/prename and provided as an alternative to the
util-linux version of /usr/bin/rename via the alternatives system.
(After learning that I was able to find the Fedora copr by searching
for "Fedora prename").

However our packaging guidelines say alternatives binaries should be
given a suffix [2]. So maybe a reasonable thing to do is:

* call the package "prename" for cross-distro compatibility.
* install the binary as "rename.pl" or something but provide
/usr/bin/prename via symlink.
* propose (I'm not sure if this is a big enough change to need the
change process, but it should be discussed) making rename into an
alternative.

[1]
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22577767/get-the-perl-rename-utility-...

[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Alternatives

Ben Rosser

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 10:24:21PM -0400, Ben Rosser wrote:
>  On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Matthew Miller
>  <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > Does this package exist in other distros? Doing what they do is usually
>  > a good choice. Most ideally, you convince the upstream to switch to a
>  > compatible name.
>  
>  Apparently, the way this is done in Debian [1] is that the program is
>  installed as /usr/bin/prename and provided as an alternative to the
>  util-linux version of /usr/bin/rename via the alternatives system.
>  (After learning that I was able to find the Fedora copr by searching
>  for "Fedora prename").
>  
>  However our packaging guidelines say alternatives binaries should be
>  given a suffix [2]. So maybe a reasonable thing to do is:
>  
>  * call the package "prename" for cross-distro compatibility.
>  * install the binary as "rename.pl" or something but provide
>  /usr/bin/prename via symlink.
>  * propose (I'm not sure if this is a big enough change to need the
>  change process, but it should be discussed) making rename into an
>  alternative. 
Nah, please don't do that. This rename and that rename have different
option syntax, so they are not interchangeable. We're better off just
having a different name.

Zbyszek

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 02:36:45AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>  > Apparently, the way this is done in Debian [1] is that the
> program is
>  > installed as /usr/bin/prename and provided as an alternative to the
>  > util-linux version of /usr/bin/rename via the alternatives system. 
[...]
>  Nah, please don't do that. This rename and that rename have
> different
>  option syntax, so they are not interchangeable. We're better off just
>  having a different name. 
Yeah. The Alternatives system should only be used in the very rare
cases where two different programs provide the same functionality and
drop-in equivalence to a reasonable level.

-- 
Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;
Fedora Project Leader

[Owen Taylor]

On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 07:40 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>  On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 02:36:45AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
>  > > Apparently, the way this is done in Debian [1] is that the program is
>  > > installed as /usr/bin/prename and provided as an alternative to the
>  > > util-linux version of /usr/bin/rename via the alternatives system.
>  
>  [...]
>  > Nah, please don't do that. This rename and that rename have different
>  > option syntax, so they are not interchangeable. We're better off just
>  > having a different name.
>  
>  Yeah. The Alternatives system should only be used in the very rare
>  cases where two different programs provide the same functionality and
>  drop-in equivalence to a reasonable level. 
And yet we are considering making /usr/bin/python user-configurable between two
not-at-all-drop-in-equivalent binaries!

Owen
  
[ Sorry for the off-topic comment in this thread ]

[Robert-André Mauchin]

Le dimanche 06 août 2017 à 19:41:39 (-0400), Ben Rosser a écrit :
>  On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Robert-André Mauchin
>  <eclipseo(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
>  > Hello,
>  >
>  > My name is Robert-André and I'm looking to become a packager for Fedora.
>  [...]
>  >
>  > So if you like my work so far, please consider sponsoring me for the packaging team
> o/
>  >
>  > Thank you.
>  >
>  > Robert-André
>  > FAS username: eclipseo
>  
>  Welcome to Fedora!
>  
>  This is interesting timing; a few days ago I found myself looking for
>  the Perl version of "rename" and installed your copr repository for
>  the script (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/eclipseo/prename/).
>  
>  If you are interested in submitting prename to the review queue in
>  addition to your other packages, I would be happy to take the review.
>  
>  I see you've already been sponsored, which is great!
>  
>  Ben Rosser
>  
If anyone is still interested in prename, I finally got a license from the 
developer, so I proposed it for Fedora inclusion.

Here is the Review Request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1482997

Thanks!