Question about toolbox purpose/usage

[Sergio Belkin]

Hi,
I've been playing a bit with toolbox, what is it intended for?

I understand that was intended primarily for immutable OS. But
documentation says that it can be used on the Workstation edition too.
AFAIK it's only useful if you don't want to mess up your /usr of your host
operating system by installing apps. Beyond that, you can happily destroy
your very $HOME, from overwriting dot files to removing any other of your
important files.
Am I missing something?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks in advance!

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[Otto Urpelainen]

Sergio Belkin kirjoitti 29.11.2021 klo 3.32:
>  Hi,
>  I've been playing a bit with toolbox, what is it intended for?
>  
>  I understand that was intended primarily for immutable OS. But
>  documentation says that it can be used on the Workstation edition too.
>  AFAIK it's only useful if you don't want to mess up your /usr of your host
>  operating system by installing apps. Beyond that, you can happily destroy
>  your very $HOME, from overwriting dot files to removing any other of your
>  important files.
>  Am I missing something?
>  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>  Thanks in advance! 
You have understood it correctly. With Toolbox, your data and user 
config is shared through mounting the home directory.

Toolbox may be useful if you have two projects that need different 
versions of the same tools, or otherwise require conflicting toolchains. 
Or if you need different operating system releases for different 
projects. Or if you have just a single project, but want to keep it in 
specified release, independently of upgrading the base operating system.

I have used Toolbox to test that Fedora package updates work correctly 
in Rawhide and all active releases.

There was also a Fedora Magazine article recently that lists various use 
cases [1].

[1]: https://fedoramagazine.org/toolbx-a-developers-new-best-friend/

Otto

[Abhiram Kuchibhotla]

Since we're talking about toolbox, is there a way to get rid of or change
the hexagon in the prompt after you enter a toolbox?

My google-fu failed me on that one.

That being said, I'm having way too much fun making custom toolbox images
for the devs at my workplace.

It's a pretty big hit here. Huge props to the devs.

On Mon, 29 Nov, 2021, 9:11 am Otto Urpelainen, <oturpe(a)iki.fi&gt; wrote:

>  Sergio Belkin kirjoitti 29.11.2021 klo 3.32:
>  > Hi,
>  > I've been playing a bit with toolbox, what is it intended for?
>  >
>  > I understand that was intended primarily for immutable OS. But
>  > documentation says that it can be used on the Workstation edition too.
>  > AFAIK it's only useful if you don't want to mess up your /usr of your
>  host
>  > operating system by installing apps. Beyond that, you can happily destroy
>  > your very $HOME, from overwriting dot files to removing any other of your
>  > important files.
>  > Am I missing something?
>  > Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>  > Thanks in advance!
>
>  You have understood it correctly. With Toolbox, your data and user
>  config is shared through mounting the home directory.
>
>  Toolbox may be useful if you have two projects that need different
>  versions of the same tools, or otherwise require conflicting toolchains.
>  Or if you need different operating system releases for different
>  projects. Or if you have just a single project, but want to keep it in
>  specified release, independently of upgrading the base operating system.
>
>  I have used Toolbox to test that Fedora package updates work correctly
>  in Rawhide and all active releases.
>
>  There was also a Fedora Magazine article recently that lists various use
>  cases [1].
>
>  [1]: https://fedoramagazine.org/toolbx-a-developers-new-best-friend/
>
>  Otto
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[Alejandro Saez Morollon]

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 2:35 AM Sergio Belkin <sebelk(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi,
>  I've been playing a bit with toolbox, what is it intended for?
>
>  I understand that was intended primarily for immutable OS. But
>  documentation says that it can be used on the Workstation edition too.
>  AFAIK it's only useful if you don't want to mess up your /usr of your host
>  operating system by installing apps. Beyond that, you can happily destroy
>  your very $HOME, from overwriting dot files to removing any other of your
>  important files.
>  Am I missing something?
>  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>  Thanks in advance!
>
>  
Yes, you can totally destroy all your files. That's the "bad" side of
it.
Look at the bright side: you don't need to deal with different dotfiles
depending on your platform.

I use toolbox every single day, I can switch versions, try testing packages
and even switch distributions.

Hope it helps.




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